bigcj55
03-17-2009, 04:52 PM
Here we go: http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

"It almost goes without saying, but we will say it anyway

With all of the great stuff lined up for us with the 3.0 OS that Apple described today, many 3G owners may find themselves with itchy update fingers. If you find yourself with access to the 3G IPSW for 3.0 via the iPhone Dev Center program, and you are using yellowsn0w, do not update or restore to that official IPSW. You will lose yellowsn0w and find yourself unable to revert the baseband to get it back.

And for those wondering, yes the 3.0 OS is jailbreakable on all devices. It’s just those using 3G yellowsn0w that have to show some restraint and wait for PwnageTool to create a custom IPSW that avoids the baseband update."

-tcq42-
03-17-2009, 04:55 PM
They won't release a jailbroken version until its official release.

kmc915
03-17-2009, 04:57 PM
This is awesome news, how the release is sooner then latter!!!

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 04:57 PM
They won't release a jailbroken version until its official release.

Tis not what Musclenerd says?...

mieraisamazing
03-17-2009, 04:58 PM
Tis not what Musclenerd says?...

musclenerd said nothing relating to a release of the jailbreak.

Chelsea878
03-17-2009, 04:58 PM
you've just gotta love the DevTeam :)

MrSax
03-17-2009, 05:01 PM
Wow!!! This was very quick.

Bubalooshi
03-17-2009, 05:03 PM
-tcq42- is right.

Unless MuscleNerd says so, there will NOT be a jailbreak for 3.0 until the official firmware comes out. This will keep Apple from knowing how they apply the jailbreak. (Well, they know the flaw in the iPod Touch by now, but the firmware is different).

That's my guess. :)

Ruamrudee
03-17-2009, 05:06 PM
I agree with -tcq42-

Since its in beta, they can still change "stuff"

iamkewl
03-17-2009, 05:08 PM
I think what they're meaning is you can jailbreak 3.0 RIGHT now.

All you have to do is patch the firmware.

correct me if I am wrong

epqr
03-17-2009, 05:09 PM
We already knew this didn't we ? There is literally nothing apple can do to stop the hacking of their iphones, and touches. All you have to do is change some files, and the new version if fully jailbreakable.

Cyanidepoison
03-17-2009, 05:09 PM
Considering all of the exploits on the current generation of devices are lower than what the firmware can modify, what Apple does doesn't matter.

Remember the "pwned for life" club?

gumbi
03-17-2009, 05:12 PM
guys, there's so much misinformation in this thread.

the holes in 3.0 are the same as in 2.x. the ability to jailbreak is based on hardware, not software. 3.0 is a software upgrade, hence the jailbreak is not affected.

i don't know if the dev team will release an official jailbreak for the betas, but it sure as hell isn't because they're scared apple will figure out how they are jailbreaking 3.0. it's the same jailbreak! apple already knows how they are doing it, but they can't stop them because it's a hardware exploit.

please stop with the misinformation.

iamkewl
03-17-2009, 05:14 PM
guys, there's so much misinformation in this thread.

the holes in 3.0 are the same as in 2.x. the ability to jailbreak is based on hardware, not software. 3.0 is a software upgrade, hence the jailbreak is not affected.

i don't know if the dev team will release an official jailbreak for the betas, but it sure as hell isn't because they're scared apple will figure out how they are jailbreaking 3.0. it's the same jailbreak! apple already knows how they are doing it, but they can't stop them because it's a hardware exploit.

please stop with the misinformation.

Thank you!

You all are acting like the dev team just jailbroke 3.0. They have doine nothing, they are only saying it is for sure possible

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:15 PM
I think what they're meaning is you can jailbreak 3.0 RIGHT now.

All you have to do is patch the firmware.

correct me if I am wrong

That's what i'm thinking

veeloc
03-17-2009, 05:15 PM
knew it, knew it, knew it!
i knew that the devteam would download it as soon as they could, and jb it asap.
so so happy.

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:16 PM
All i posted was a DIRECT quotes from the iPhone Dev Team Blog.You may look for yourself.NO misinformation.I added nothing.If you're calling Musclenerd a liar go talk to him about it.
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All I said was "It's Jailbreakable"

-tcq42-
03-17-2009, 05:19 PM
-tcq42- is right.

Unless MuscleNerd says so, there will NOT be a jailbreak for 3.0 until the official firmware comes out. This will keep Apple from knowing how they apply the jailbreak. (Well, they know the flaw in the iPod Touch by now, but the firmware is different).

That's my guess. :)

Not only that. It wouldn't seem right for them to release something based off a beta firmware that should not be released to the public. In order for anybody to complete the jailbreak, they must pirate the 3.0 firmware, something the dev team is strongly against. They won't do it for moral issues. Plus, they'd be doing it off of a beta, which would mean it's not going to be very stable.

cookie5000
03-17-2009, 05:19 PM
There is no such thing as perfect in anything. In fact perfect is the worst thing that can happen to anyone since it means no more improvements.

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:21 PM
As the iPhone Dev Team have mentioned, yes the iPhone 3.0 is jailbreakable. The iPhone Dev-Team have always released a jailbreak for every firmware update and I'm sure they will be releasing a jailbreak for the next OS as well.WHEN it is released.I'll be happy with the update with no jailbreak until then.:D

Reaper2794
03-17-2009, 05:21 PM
knew it, knew it, knew it!
i knew that the devteam would download it as soon as they could, and jb it asap.
so so happy.

Omg you MORON READ THE FREAKIN POSTS.

THEY DID NOT GET THEIR HANDS ON THE FIRMWARE IDIOT. IT IS THE SAME FREAKIN EXPLOIT.

They are SIMPLY stating that you can Jailbreak it. IT IS POSSIBLE. They didn't DO anything ffs.

READ

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:24 PM
omg you moron read the freakin posts.

They did not get their hands on the firmware idiot. It is the same freakin exploit.

They are simply stating that you can jailbreak it. It is possible. They didn't do anything ffs.

Read

thank you

thekodanator
03-17-2009, 05:25 PM
Yikes, someones grumpy.. I can't wait to get MY hands on that firmware though. but i guess i'll wait 'till a JB.

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:28 PM
Yikes, someones grumpy.. I can't wait to get MY hands on that firmware though. but i guess i'll wait 'till a JB.

Check your PMs my friend.:D

CaptainPWN
03-17-2009, 05:29 PM
Those damn nerds need to hurry up and get PWNAGE tool 3.0 out so I can update my iPhone 3G and keep it unlocked.

Maybe if he didn't spend so much time on his muscles, he'd be able to stop being such a nerd and help us internet homies out.

jpga13
03-17-2009, 05:31 PM
You will need pwnage or quickpwn to even install the firmware if you get it. You can't just get the firmware and install it unless your device UDID is registered with Apple

cookie5000
03-17-2009, 05:33 PM
maybe u should stop insulting the people ur trying to get help from?
Also they're not gonna release the beta jailbreak cause anyone who does jailbreak their ipod will most likely use a leaked version of the firmware.

deadfire55
03-17-2009, 05:33 PM
lol is it just me or are they getting faster at jailbreaking?

iamkewl
03-17-2009, 05:35 PM
lol is it just me or are they getting faster at jailbreaking?

They did NOTHING to jailbreak 3.0

:o

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:36 PM
They did NOTHING to jailbreak 3.0

:o

Yup, I recall them saying about the iPod Touch 2G that no matter what firmwares released it will always be jailbreakable.:P

iamkewl
03-17-2009, 05:37 PM
Yup, I recall them saying about the iPod Touch 2G that no matter what firmwares released it will always be jailbreakable.:P

Yeah

"pwnd for life"

mogey16816
03-17-2009, 05:38 PM
haha amazing. Poor apple, they can't do anything!!!

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:39 PM
Sad Apple....There's a wee little worm in the Apple....Sad day for them.:)

football930
03-17-2009, 05:44 PM
To jailbreak on ANY iPhone, iPod touch as long as your iPhone is not unlocked you do the EXACT same process but use the 3.0 firmware instead of the 2.2.1 firmware. Same programs, same process. Just different firmware.

THERE IS NO NEW JAILBREAK!

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:44 PM
Yeah

"pwnd for life"

I see you have a gamertag.....Halo 3 maybe?...0.o

SjPedro
03-17-2009, 05:46 PM
with all the new pairing stuff apple has in line (aka Bluetooth) I am expecting that some new Cydia apps will be in the making....Bluetooth GPS for iPod Touch yay :D lol

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:47 PM
My Nuvi GPS thingie will be angry about this....:P

cookie5000
03-17-2009, 05:49 PM
if what u say is true football930 then redsnow will work for 3.0 right?

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:51 PM
if what u say is true football930 then redsnow will work for 3.0 right?

That's what I want to know...

pavan
03-17-2009, 05:52 PM
Check your PMs my friend.:D

how bout mine... i want *******

football930
03-17-2009, 05:53 PM
if what u say is true football930 then redsnow will work for 3.0 right?

As long as no encryption has changed which i dont think it has since the Dev-Team has come out and said it is fully capable. The jailbreak takes place on the hardware level not software. So once the jailbreak is discovered, there is nothing apple can do until they release the next physical upgrade.

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 05:57 PM
how bout mine... i want *******

Check yours too.:D

cookie5000
03-17-2009, 06:06 PM
awesome can't wait to try

Casual18
03-17-2009, 06:08 PM
Omg you MORON READ THE FREAKIN POSTS.

THEY DID NOT GET THEIR HANDS ON THE FIRMWARE IDIOT. IT IS THE SAME FREAKIN EXPLOIT.

They are SIMPLY stating that you can Jailbreak it. IT IS POSSIBLE. They didn't DO anything ffs.

READ


U MAD U MAD:mad:
I can already download that Firmware but i need it jailbroken for the bossprefs so i can close edge and 3g off before my provider kills me with usage.

jayune
03-17-2009, 06:11 PM
alot of people sure are getting banned over a little leak lol

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 06:12 PM
U MAD U MAD:mad:
I can already download that Firmware but i need it jailbroken for the bossprefs so i can close edge and 3g off before my provider kills me with usage.

I understand.I am sorry for your loss.

cookie5000
03-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Its stupid the admins should realize that its not gonna stop people are just gonna find new ways to leak it on the same forum.

marko
03-17-2009, 07:16 PM
lol. what people shoul;d be worrying about is not if or when the Dev Team will release a JB, thats a given. the more importnat point is whehter the apps we are using on 2 will still work. took a long time after 2 came out to get all the stuff we had on 1.1.x to work again.

xxhorseriderxxx
03-17-2009, 07:27 PM
I think what they're meaning is you can jailbreak 3.0 RIGHT now.

All you have to do is patch the firmware.

correct me if I am wrong

The Pwnage Jailbreak is hardware based, no amount of software by apple can disable the Jailbreak on the current devices.

bigcj55
03-17-2009, 07:36 PM
I would never leak it. 0.o

Hexane
03-17-2009, 09:49 PM
Not to be a pooper but, i just jailbroke my 2g on 2.2.1 and the last thing i need is a upgrade,jailbreaking my 2g made me nearly cry cause i was up for ever getting MAH APPS BACK

biggz
03-17-2009, 10:10 PM
if the DEV TEAM WAS a girl she would be the sexist bitch alive

Mwolvesto50
03-17-2009, 10:51 PM
This is aweseome! Too bad iPod Touch users still have to pay 9.95 as always.

impulse29
03-17-2009, 11:44 PM
lol. what people shoul;d be worrying about is not if or when the Dev Team will release a JB, thats a given. the more importnat point is whehter the apps we are using on 2 will still work. took a long time after 2 came out to get all the stuff we had on 1.1.x to work again.

1. I think it's been discussed about 100000 times that the Dev Team doesn't have to release a jailbreak for 3.0 because the jailbreaks are hardware based, not software.

2. There wasn't an app store for iPhone OS 1... Now that there is, the 2.0 apps MUST work... The 3.0 apps likely won't be backwards compatible, but Apple certainly doesn't want to start over with apps...

... use your brain and read damn it!

Wiizz
03-18-2009, 02:21 AM
So... Can iPod touch upgrade and enjoy the unjailbroken version of it and then we can wait for jailbreak? Or does this statement refer to both the iPhone 3.0 and iPod 3.0. I already have a $20 gift card ready for the upgrade. :D

vipfreak
03-18-2009, 02:47 AM
Yayyers, can't wait.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 03:31 AM
We still need firmware bundles in order to properly jailbreak 3.0

lightsout565
03-18-2009, 03:49 AM
Any updates on how long its gonna be til Quickpwn supports the 2G

Josso
03-18-2009, 04:03 AM
Check yours too.:D

What about mine?? :)

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 05:19 AM
From what the devteam have done in the past it's most likely that they'll release quickpwn over the weekend or next weekend

stuartw
03-18-2009, 05:35 AM
From what the devteam have done in the past it's most likely that they'll release quickpwn over the weekend or next weekend

Highly doubt this

POK
03-18-2009, 05:43 AM
will 2.x.x jailbroken apps work on 3.x? ie. Winterboard?

Evostance
03-18-2009, 05:59 AM
will 2.x.x jailbroken apps work on 3.x? ie. Winterboard?

Probably.

3.0 has leaked as a Beta - look on Digg.

However:

Take note:
A warning document in the beta files states that if you upgrade using this package then you cannot go back to an earlier version of the iPhone software.

If you can get the firmware bundle then just run it through the same jailbreak steps to create a new bundle and load it on to your ipod.

If 3.0 is anything like the 2.0 update, you should be able to get the 3.0 firmware, hold shift-restore and load the firmware file.

Wonder if 3.0 will be available directly from apple like 2.0 is...

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 06:11 AM
The uiud thing is something we should probably work on first. I think that the best way to do this is to have itunes connect to a fake server.

kmc915
03-18-2009, 06:22 AM
Any one know how to create the firmware .bundle that go inside PwnageTool?

BLACKSTEEL
03-18-2009, 07:03 AM
can the 3.0 beta be installed on the 1g iphone?

jamil_d
03-18-2009, 07:19 AM
can the 3.0 beta be installed on the 1g iphone?

It can as long as your Unique Device Identifier is registered with Apple and you're a member of the developer program.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 07:52 AM
I think were probably gonna have to wait for chronic or devteam to help us out

bigcj55
03-18-2009, 07:57 AM
WOW.I can't believe on the front page of the forums with my post....WOW....:D

roninx
03-18-2009, 08:04 AM
i'm bored. i wish there was a way to just mod the pwnagetool installer to accustom the new 3.0 beta. that's probably what this "dev team" did. it ain't rocket science.

bigcj55
03-18-2009, 08:23 AM
i'm bored. i wish there was a way to just mod the pwnagetool installer to accustom the new 3.0 beta. that's probably what this "dev team" did. it ain't rocket science.

What do you mean this "Dev Team"???Seriously dude?They said it's JAILBREAKABLE not jailbroken.Maybe you should read through ALL seven pages of posts first.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 08:49 AM
This is getting annoying. Dev teams probably holding back the tools we need to jailbreak this cause of copyright issues and cause they can't get it to be completely stable since its a beta firmware.

zwaldowski
03-18-2009, 09:14 AM
@cookie5000: Please get over yourself. It is perfectly within the DevTeam's rights to hold back THEIR work from being released. It is also within their rights to not want to get in trouble for illegally releasing copyrighted material.

Ryan
03-18-2009, 09:19 AM
^ indeed.

bigcj55
03-18-2009, 09:35 AM
This is getting annoying. Dev teams probably holding back the tools we need to jailbreak this cause of copyright issues and cause they can't get it to be completely stable since its a beta firmware.

Impatient people.....psh...

Meyer
03-18-2009, 10:58 AM
wow! this is oober good news!

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 11:21 AM
Sorry guys for seeming like an ass to be honest I wished they could have held back the unteathered jailbreeak but 3.0 is probably not gonna change cause we already have a hole through the hardware part of the iPod I don't see a good reason this time to hold it back

iCrap
03-18-2009, 12:13 PM
For those that have this, for iPod (i dont...)

Would it be possible to use xPwn to make a custom fw from 3.0 to jailbreak? makes sense to me... would it work?

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 12:51 PM
im gonna try right now ill let u know
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I can't find xpwn anywhere.

iVolution
03-18-2009, 02:27 PM
sooner or later apple will have the same jbreaking & unlocking problems, as zhibiri made it once, he'll make it possibly twice... 2.x.x for the m0ument i recomend no hurry

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 03:13 PM
Guys check out my UUID workaround.

spikey911
03-18-2009, 03:44 PM
To be honest, I would see the Slingbox app released... :)

roninx
03-18-2009, 03:51 PM
What do you mean this "Dev Team"???Seriously dude?They said it's JAILBREAKABLE not jailbroken.Maybe you should read through ALL seven pages of posts first.


I did, smart one. i was one of the first 100 or so people to obtain 3.0 beta from third party, i know a hell of a lot more than you.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 03:51 PM
whats the slingbox app

roninx
03-18-2009, 03:52 PM
@cookie5000: Please get over yourself. It is perfectly within the DevTeam's rights to hold back THEIR work from being released. It is also within their rights to not want to get in trouble for illegally releasing copyrighted material.

typical sheep, with no ambition of his own.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Sorry guys for seeming like an ass to be honest I wished they could have held back the unteathered jailbreeak but 3.0 is probably not gonna change cause we already have a hole through the hardware part of the iPod I don't see a good reason this time to hold it back

Ronix maybe u should read all the posts instead trying to start a flame war.

Augusta
03-18-2009, 04:30 PM
I did, smart one. i was one of the first 100 or so people to obtain 3.0 beta from third party, i know a hell of a lot more than you.

That's really something to be proud of.

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/imgcache/30301.png

jpga13
03-18-2009, 04:32 PM
I wonder which number I was? Is there a page on the Apple Site with the rankings? :)

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 04:38 PM
Wow guys can we not turn this into a flame war.

roninx
03-18-2009, 05:04 PM
That's really something to be proud of.

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/imgcache/30301.png

quite clever, and no less annoying of you than your depiction of me. i'm sure i actually look like that in real life.

look, i'm not trying to upset idiots with absolutely no skills in insulting people, whose feelings are easily hurt and resort to shallow stereotyping .

i'm trying to make a point that in order to make this community strong, there needs to be better communication. and stalinist iptfans is not cutting it. :rolleyes:

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 05:23 PM
ronix why don't u actually contribute instead of mindless talking.

roninx
03-18-2009, 05:30 PM
ronix why don't u actually contribute instead of mindless talking.

you're one to talk. i'm helping people torwards a goal, while you're out misinforming everyone. checkmate.
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ronix why don't u actually contribute instead of mindless talking.

and this must have been the 4th time you misspelled my screen name.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 05:48 PM
sorry for misspelling your name but what have you contributed. I just signed up two days ago and i already have a couple fixes to some issues people are having.

roninx
03-18-2009, 06:04 PM
people have been asking me on how to obtain firmware and i tell them in private, i provide thorough explanation to each person and explain the whole process in detail as well as new features.
also i've been seeding and directly contributing to the expansion of the beta tester base.
i apologize for giving you shit, but when fired upon, i fire back. and other have been rude to me and have no backing in terms of intelligence for one, knowledge in the jailbreaking field, or balls.

cookie5000
03-18-2009, 06:09 PM
Alright can we both agree to stick to the topic on hand

djmexi
03-18-2009, 09:02 PM
so im corious im on 2g touch, which is jailbroken, if i came across the firmware would i be able to jailbreak it after updating my touch?

RainbowKT
03-18-2009, 09:09 PM
prob not

bigcj55
03-18-2009, 09:16 PM
people have been asking me on how to obtain firmware and i tell them in private, i provide thorough explanation to each person and explain the whole process in detail as well as new features.
also i've been seeding and directly contributing to the expansion of the beta tester base.
i apologize for giving you shit, but when fired upon, i fire back. and other have been rude to me and have no backing in terms of intelligence for one, knowledge in the jailbreaking field, or balls.

pssst!He didn't sign up 2 days ago he's actually spdrman5000 in disguise cause he got banned.

cookie5000
03-19-2009, 03:24 AM
Yea im am spdrman5000 but i only had one post on that account plus if u try to actually find it youll know that its not banned.

yueli93
03-19-2009, 06:46 AM
uh, not to sound stupid guys, but would you have to pay the 9.95 towards apple to get the 3.0 file to jb?

cookie5000
03-19-2009, 09:07 AM
in June yea you would

beasse
03-19-2009, 12:43 PM
A beta can be a beta for "months/years"

RainbowKT
03-19-2009, 12:46 PM
A beta can be a beta for "months/years"

not for apple;)

klex269
03-20-2009, 07:09 AM
guys i know im late on this but here is the deal. anyone who knows how to make their own 3.0 firmware bbdle can do it. all you have to have technicaly is the 3.0 beta firmware. Dev team probally already has made it but dousnt want to release because that would be incourging pirating in a way. also if you upddate to the 3.0 you can not downgrade (actualy you can but ony works like 2 out of five times) also you cant update to 3.0 inless your a oaying apple developer. there is a way to bypass that what you have to do is after you restore to the firmware dicsount your computer from your router and then sync it. anyway sorry for posting this late and to all you idiots who dont know wat the F*ck your talking about dont post some shit out of your ass. only post the facts so the dev team dousnt gets pissed offf with questions. also yes all 2.x apps will work for 3.x this is because we are not chaning what we changed for 1.x to 2.x. we needed to change it then to make the app store better. so all 2.x will work for 3.x. ok i think thaats about it any other questions please pm me

bigcj55
03-20-2009, 10:37 AM
guys i know im late on this but here is the deal. anyone who knows how to make their own 3.0 firmware bbdle can do it. all you have to have technicaly is the 3.0 beta firmware. Dev team probally already has made it but dousnt want to release because that would be incourging pirating in a way. also if you upddate to the 3.0 you can not downgrade (actualy you can but ony works like 2 out of five times) also you cant update to 3.0 inless your a oaying apple developer. there is a way to bypass that what you have to do is after you restore to the firmware dicsount your computer from your router and then sync it. anyway sorry for posting this late and to all you idiots who dont know wat the F*ck your talking about dont post some shit out of your ass. only post the facts so the dev team dousnt gets pissed offf with questions. also yes all 2.x apps will work for 3.x this is because we are not chaning what we changed for 1.x to 2.x. we needed to change it then to make the app store better. so all 2.x will work for 3.x. ok i think thaats about it any other questions please pm me

I've downgraded/gone back to the beta lots of times. No problems whatsoever. Chill bro. Not that big of deal. Oh, it's doesn't by the way. Also, your avatar is a screenshot of your iPod correct? You should take Installous off. The screenshot at least.

EvilDuck
03-22-2009, 05:20 AM
Those damn nerds need to hurry up and get PWNAGE tool 3.0 out so I can update my iPhone 3G and keep it unlocked.

Maybe if he didn't spend so much time on his muscles, he'd be able to stop being such a nerd and help us internet homies out.

OMG funniest thing i have ever read

pavan
03-22-2009, 07:04 AM
Those damn nerds need to hurry up and get PWNAGE tool 3.0 out so I can update my iPhone 3G and keep it unlocked.

Maybe if he didn't spend so much time on his muscles, he'd be able to stop being such a nerd and help us internet homies out.

wow ur a retard:
1) working out or "on your muscles" doesnt make u a nerd
2) if he wasnt "such a nerd" they wouldnt be able to help us
3) get a life
4) try to do something new and helpful with your life

Renteura
03-22-2009, 08:26 AM
wow ur a retard:
1) working out or "on your muscles" doesnt make u a nerd
2) if he wasnt "such a nerd" they wouldnt be able to help us
3) get a life
4) try to do something new and helpful with your life

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Musclenerd's name.

shiben589
03-22-2009, 11:12 AM
guys...he was joking... please dont make a big deal of it