jfb392 and I have successfully jailbroken 3.0b2 for the iPod touch 2G. It's hard to get a convincing shot for you guys as there is a certain lack of support of working applications other than Apple's official apps and Icy. I'll re-post what I stuck in the redTool thread though:

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35987&d=1239425574

High res: Here (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35987&d=1239425574)

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35988&stc=1&d=1239425742


High res: link (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35988&stc=1&d=1239425742)

This isn't a very user friendly interpretation and will not be released until we get it cleaned up and/or it is fully implemented into redTool. We will respect the dev-team's wishes for now. We just wanted to show you that it has been done :)

Heh Chris, you need to tell me how you booted it. ;);)

For anyone wondering, we don't have a nice Terminal screenshot like the Dev Team because it is broken on 3.0 and we aren't as skilled as them (well, we could just recompile it, but still).

And yeah, NES is broken, but it's still a third party icon.

If you really don't believe us though, I can explain fully how we did it. :)

So what exactly does work? Great job guys, extremely impressive! :) Once your ready to release it, I'd love to port it to mac if you would give me the source.

Nice work guys.
Although since most of the apps are broken, I find no use for it.

So what exactly does work? Great job guys, extremely impressive! :) Once your ready to release it, I'd love to port it to mac if you would give me the source.

At this point, as far as I know, I am the only one with a working jailbroken 2G. The way we are currently forced to do it requires it to be tethered. We simply don't know how to apply 24kpwn to the LLB. It's a sophisticated work that we will need more info form the dev-team on in order to implement.

But it's 1:30AM here and I'm just happy that it's jailbroken. Cydia doesn't even work yet, that should tell you something about application support :p I'm out soon.

Nice job. To bad I'm not a dev and won't be pirating it anytime soon. Plus almost all apps are broken so it doesn't even matter.

So what exactly does work? Great job guys, extremely impressive! :) Once your ready to release it, I'd love to port it to mac if you would give me the source.Nothing really works on 3.0, just App Store applications and few jailbroken ones (SSH didn't work well until an update a few days ago, Cydia is being updated soon I hear).

And any jailbreak is already cross platform as it is.
This was done using tools included in Dev Team utilities (QuickPwn and XPwn).
The QuickPwn part of it is only the ramdisk base, so that doesn't depend on your OS, and XPwn should compile on pretty much anything.

But, as I made somewhat clear before the release of the 2G QuickPwn, it was the only missing link.

Well, I'm jailbroken. Just gotta boot. :p:p

Well good on you, im surprised you got even to tethered with out the dev team, thanks for showing us it.

also, im not being sarcastic if you get the felling i am.

Well, it's not like the Dev Team is the only group that knows how to jailbreak stuff. Lol.

No one doesn't believe Chris. Naice. Keep up the good work.

Well, it's not like the Dev Team is the only group that knows how to jailbreak stuff. Lol.

If it weren't for them, those screenshots wouldn't not be there and this thread would not exist. We credit them for a large portion of this, but we did a lot of manual patching and things in order to get here... it's hard to explain and I'm talking out of my head. It's late, I'm tired. g'night all, hasta manana.

It's late, I'm tired. g'night all, hasta manana.

¡Hasta Mañana!

great work guys.

when the official FW comes out, how difficult will it be to port over?

great work guys.

when the official FW comes out, how difficult will it be to port over?

I was almost off :p

A couple of hours to adjust to the firmware and test. That is given that Apple doesn't decide to change things.

I was almost off :p

A couple of hours to adjust to the firmware and test. That is given that Apple doesn't decide to change things.

Well don't release anything then. We don't want another *cough*Nitro*cough* Say what?

If it weren't for them, those screenshots wouldn't not be there and this thread would not exist. We credit them for a large portion of this, but we did a lot of manual patching and things in order to get here... it's hard to explain and I'm talking out of my head. It's late, I'm tired. g'night all, hasta manana.

Yeah, I know, but I just meant that it's not them that does all of the work. Other people do some of it too, and it's not impossible for others to find out exploits. The Dev Team just know what they're doing. Lol.
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Well don't release anything then. We don't want another *cough*Nitro*cough* Say what?

Lmao, I totally forgot all about NitroKey until now.

Lmao, I totally forgot all about NitroKey until now.

*GASP*

You said the "N" word!

Well don't release anything then. We don't want another *cough*Nitro*cough* Say what?

Yeah, I know, but I just meant that it's not them that does all of the work. Other people do some of it too, and it's not impossible for others to find out exploits. The Dev Team just know what they're doing. Lol.

We know, they are aware of our findings. We are not releasing anything any time soon for several reasons.

for a third time, I'm out! lol

Well don't release anything then. We don't want another *cough*Nitro*cough* Say what?

Oh yeah of course haha. Well I got mine to boot, so yay. :):) Thanks to Chris haha.

seang, since you're being so public about it, let me remind you not to share it.
It is for redTool developers and redTool developers only.
We're not joking here, we really don't want to offend the Dev Team.

It was a fun experiment that just turned out to work, and isn't ready for public consumption.

seang, since you're being so public about it, let me remind you not to share it.
It is for redTool developers and redTool developers only.
We're not joking here, we really don't want to offend the Dev Team.

It was a fun experiment that just turned out to work, and isn't ready for public consumption.

Yeah I know don't worry. All I did was just equal to what Chris did. :p:p I assure you I won't share it.

seang was a redTool dev?

seang was a redTool dev?Well, he is a tester.
I don't know what else he does, since I am not really a developer either.
I'm just there to sidetrack things and do things that don't need to be done (like jailbreaking 3.0 on the 2G).

seang was a redTool dev?

James and I aren't really devs. More of helpers I'd say. Chris does most of the work.

James and I aren't really devs. More of helpers I'd say. Chris does most of the work.

I want in! Can I become a tester as well?

I want in! Can I become a tester as well?You'd really have to ask Chris, and even if you became one, I don't think we're going to be spreading this.
It's very easy to do, but I don't think the Dev Team wants it spread all over and we will do what they wish.

You'd really have to ask Chris, and even if you became one, I don't think we're going to be spreading this.
It's very easy to do, but I don't think the Dev Team wants it spread all over and we will do what they wish.

I wanted to test redTool, not the 3.0 jailbreak. I wasn't even asking for that.

I wanted to test redTool, not the 3.0 jailbreak. I wasn't even asking for that.Yeah, I'm sure that would be fine, but Chris would still be the one to ask.

Sorry but what is the point of this thread except maybe showing off?

Since the jailbreak for the IPT2G relies on the bootloader buffer overflow exploit which cannot be patched by Apple with a firmware update it was clear from the beginning that 3.0 and well as any firmware after can be jailbroken. And since you are not willing to share the way you did it, this post has no information value at all.

Sorry but what is the point of this thread except maybe showing off?

Since the jailbreak for the IPT2G relies on the bootloader buffer overflow exploit which cannot be patched by Apple with a firmware update it was clear from the beginning that 3.0 and well as any firmware after can be jailbroken. And since you are not willing to share the way you did it, this post has no information value at all.I actually made it clear that I would explain how it was done.

@Ezekeel
I think news/announcements are permitted, and very valuable. And theres evidence too, so I'm sure that alot of people will find some relevance to them, so don't flame those who spend hours helping everyone :p

I actually made it clear that I would explain how it was done.

Great, can't wait.

Good job; I have been following both of your Twitters and it seems like you guys were working hard on getting this done!

Looking forward to implementation in redTool.

Good job; I have been following both of your Twitters and it seems like you guys were working hard on getting this done!

Looking forward to implementation in redTool.It won't come until 3.0 final, for reasons previously stated in this thread.

Great, can't wait.I'm not going to get technical or anything, I was planning on writing up a how-to, but I've decided against that.
If you are capable of making your own ramdisk though, you should understand everything I'm talking about.

I stated a couple days ago that QuickPwn for the 2G was our missing link, and it was.
It's ramdisk template is filled with a bunch of useful utilities.
Basically, what I did was clean out a ramdisk and filled it with the ramdisk template (rd.tar).
After I had the ramdisk set up, I went ahead and decrypted and patched all required images (iBoot, kernel, LLB, plus the members of the iBoot family used in restores, just for fun, and they ended up being useful later on).
After patching, I resigned the images using the original image as a template, then added them back into the ramdisk (any files found in all_flash in your IPSW go in /nor, while the kernel is placed in the root of the ramdisk).
Finally, I added a couple payloads that I had prepared (Icy, since it is the only packager that works on 3.0 as of now, plus some activation patches, just because I wanted to see if they worked).
After all of this, I resigned the ramdisk, again using the original as the template.
You then have two options; manually send the kernel and ramdisk, then boot into them, or use iTunes as your front end.
I chose to use iTunes, sense it is less fussy, so I packaged up the ramdisk, plus all patched images I had into an IPSW with the same structure as the stock one (although it only contains the ramdisk containing the QuickPwn payload, so it's like a NOR-only somewhat).
The redsn0w exploit was then used to strap the ramdisk and allow it to do its magic.
After completion, your iPod will end up in a tethered state (unless you understand 24kpwn, which I do not yet), so you'll have to jump through iBoots like 2.2.1 tethered (your process would be 2.1.1 iBSS -> redsn0w -> pwned 3.0 iBSS -> pwned 3.0 iBoot -> go).

And there you have it. :)
No, I will not be giving further detail.
As I said, if you are capable of doing it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
I am not looking to get myself into bad standing with any members of any team, nor am I looking to get anyone I am involved with on anyone's bad side either.

It won't come until 3.0 final, for reasons previously stated in this thread.

I'm not going to get technical or anything, I was planning on writing up a how-to, but I've decided against that.
If you are capable of making your own ramdisk though, you should understand everything I'm talking about.

I stated a couple days ago that QuickPwn for the 2G was our missing link, and it was.
It's ramdisk template is filled with a bunch of useful utilities.
Basically, what I did was clean out a ramdisk and filled it with the ramdisk template (rd.tar).
After I had the ramdisk set up, I went ahead and decrypted and patched all required images (iBoot, kernel, LLB, plus the members of the iBoot family used in restores, just for fun, and they ended up being useful later on).
After patching, I resigned the images using the original image as a template, then added them back into the ramdisk (any files found in all_flash in your IPSW go in /nor, while the kernel is placed in the root of the ramdisk).
Finally, I added a couple payloads that I had prepared (Icy, since it is the only packager that works on 3.0 as of now, plus some activation patches, just because I wanted to see if they worked).
After all of this, I resigned the ramdisk, again using the original as the template.
You then have two options; manually send the kernel and ramdisk, then boot into them, or use iTunes as your front end.
I chose to use iTunes, sense it is less fussy, so I packaged up the ramdisk, plus all patched images I had into an IPSW with the same structure as the stock one (although it only contains the ramdisk containing the QuickPwn payload, so it's like a NOR-only somewhat).
The redsn0w exploit was then used to strap the ramdisk and allow it to do its magic.
After completion, your iPod will end up in a tethered state (unless you understand 24kpwn, which I do not yet), so you'll have to jump through iBoots like 2.2.1 tethered (your process would be 2.1.1 iBSS -> redsn0w -> pwned 3.0 iBSS -> pwned 3.0 iBoot -> go).

And there you have it. :)
No, I will not be giving further detail.
As I said, if you are capable of doing it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
I am not looking to get myself into bad standing with any members of any team, nor am I looking to get anyone I am involved with on anyone's bad side either.

O my god!, you are my new favorite dev :-),.... no secrets now :D:D:D

O my god!, you are my new favorite dev :-),.... no secrets now :D:D:DI am not a developer really, I just think I understand quite a bit about how these devices work, so I can think things through.
I mean, I did this without having a 2G, but that is simply because I understand the exploit we used (redsn0w, not 24kpwn, unfortunately) and how previous implementations worked on other devices.

O my god!, you are my favorite person :-)

Nice job on this. You do not have to worry about any repercussions from devteam/chronicdev/etc. if you release this, neither of us will give support for it and none of us will work on our own implementation, but if you want to release this you should not feel that people will get mad at you for it.

Also, I have been busy looking into other stuff so I have not tried it yet, but try using a 2.2.1 NOR setup and 2.2.1 kernel. That might work to untethered it, but I do not know for sure as I have not tested it, I just would imagine that as long as there were no major kernel changes it should be compatible with the 3.0 binaries.

Nice job on this. You do not have to worry about any repercussions from devteam/chronicdev/etc. if you release this, neither of us will give support for it and none of us will work on our own implementation, but if you want to release this you should not feel that people will get mad at you for it.

Also, I have been busy looking into other stuff so I have not tried it yet, but try using a 2.2.1 NOR setup and 2.2.1 kernel. That might work to untethered it, but I do not know for sure as I have not tested it, I just would imagine that as long as there were no major kernel changes it should be compatible with the 3.0 binaries.Thanks, it means a lot to even have someone on either team compliment us. :)
Even though there will be no repercussions, I still don't think we're going to release it because of how we have it implemented and out of respect for you guys.

And I have tried using 2.x images on 3.x on my 1G, and it seems to be no likely, unfortunately (with their 2.x Img3 containers and the slightly modified 3.x containers).
We actually tried to use the 2.2.1 LLB in this (because I don't fully understand 24kpwn), but the acts like a tethered device (which leads me to think that the LLB is obviously the problem, or else the screen would at least power on).

I know you said you won't help us, but even before this little project, I was interested in knowing how to create a 24kpwn-exploited LLB (and not knowing exactly how actually kept me from buying a 2G, because I enjoy messing around a lot with exploits).
If you or anyone else who knows how had time, could you possibly help me create one or explain a little more in depth what some of the changes mean?
The write up on the wiki is more than detailed on how the exploit works, but some things about the preparation of the image itself confuse me a lot.

I really do appreciate what you guys are doing but...
Why waste your time??
Its already been done by the best of the best.


http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170810

I really do appreciate what you guys are doing but...
Why waste your time??
Its already been done by the best of the best.


http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170810QuickPwn 0.2 does not jailbreak 3.0.

QuickPwn 0.2 does not jailbreak 3.0.

What did I miss-read then?? =/

What did I miss-read then?? =/I don't know.
QuickPwn 0.2 jailbreaks 2.2.1 and 2.2.1 only.
We're using QuickPwn as a base to our jailbreak for 3.0, but it was very manual.

I don't know.
QuickPwn 0.2 jailbreaks 2.2.1 and 2.2.1 only.
We're using QuickPwn as a base to our jailbreak for 3.0, but it was very manual.

Ohh shizzzz!
My baddd..
Keep the nice work going!

why you don't release now?

why you don't release now?

READ. We don't want another NitroKey. They stole the Dev-Team's hard earned work and tried to sell it for money. And Apple can still patch whatever they release right now for the final release.

Sorry but what is the point of this thread except maybe showing off?

Hahahahaa, I love your avatar.

READ. We don't want another NitroKey. They stole the Dev-Team's hard earned work and tried to sell it for money. And Apple can still patch whatever they release right now for the final release.

I'm not sure but I think that's wrong, as the exploit for the 2G was found in the bootrom, and the exploit could not be modified or patched by software in any way. If you look at the Dev-Teams blog you will see it is a Pwned for life iPod, meaning no updates will be able to stop it being jailbroken. If anything in here is wrong, feel free to correct me.

I'm not sure but I think that's wrong, as the exploit for the 2G was found in the bootrom, and the exploit could not be modified or patched by software in any way. If you look at the Dev-Teams blog you will see it is a Pwned for life iPod, meaning no updates will be able to stop it being jailbroken. If anything in here is wrong, feel free to correct me.

I think he ment patching the firmware?

I think he ment patching the firmware?

I think he means they can patch the firmware fir 3.0 s it is unjailbreakable, which can't be dine, as the exploiit is found in the hardware, not the firmware. So as far as I know, Apple have no way of removing this exploit, meaning it will be jailbreakable on all firmwares to come.

Just a quick question, does Spotlight work for Jailbroken Apps? I should think it does, but I just wanna be sure :)

I'm not sure but I think that's wrong, as the exploit for the 2G was found in the bootrom, and the exploit could not be modified or patched by software in any way. If you look at the Dev-Teams blog you will see it is a Pwned for life iPod, meaning no updates will be able to stop it being jailbroken. If anything in here is wrong, feel free to correct me.

That is correct, but we need firmware exploits as well. They can patch up whatever Chris found, then we'd have to waste more time trying to crack the RootFS, or whatever the hell Chris needed to do. So yup.

Just a quick question, does Spotlight work for Jailbroken Apps? I should think it does, but I just wanna be sure :)

Umm, I think it does. I'll test it out right now.

Edit: Yep

Umm, I think it does. I'll test it out right now.

Edit: Yep

Oh, awesome. That's going to be a ton of help when I jailbreak 3.0 Lol.

That is correct, but we need firmware exploits as well. They can patch up whatever Chris found, then we'd have to waste more time trying to crack the RootFS, or whatever the hell Chris needed to do. So yup.No, they wouldn't.
There is no exploit; it's been the same patch forever and ever.
Also, the RootFS vfdecrypt key can be obtained already.

We are simply not releasing anything out of respect.
I detailed how to do it; it's not hard if you know what you're doing.
Also, we don't encourage piracy (most of you probably don't even have 3.0) and we would not fake activate it for you.

How would one extract such things out of QuickPwn?

How would one extract such things out of QuickPwn?Split the tape archive out (or find it in a certain version of QuickPwn).

No, they wouldn't.
There is no exploit; it's been the same patch forever and ever.
Also, the RootFS vfdecrypt key can be obtained already.

We are simply not releasing anything out of respect.
I detailed how to do it; it's not hard if you know what you're doing.
Also, we don't encourage piracy (most of you probably don't even have 3.0) and we would not fake activate it for you.

Oh sorry then. Eh. I have an activated 3.0. Dev program.

Split the tape archive out (or find it in a certain version of QuickPwn).

Will you be gracing us with your presence on IRC tonight?

I think he means they can patch the firmware fir 3.0 s it is unjailbreakable, which can't be dine, as the exploiit is found in the hardware, not the firmware. So as far as I know, Apple have no way of removing this exploit, meaning it will be jailbreakable on all firmwares to come.

It is potentially possible for Apple to fix it, but that would require programming a tool that can automatically write to the bootrom, within a firmware update. It would cause a surge of bricks, real ones.

And plus, that would just show the Dev Team how to do it themselves.

Split the tape archive out (or find it in a certain version of QuickPwn).

How?
Will you be gracing us with your presence on IRC tonight?

I'll think about it.

It is potentially possible for Apple to fix it, but that would require programming a tool that can automatically write to the bootrom, within a firmware update. It would cause a surge of bricks, real ones.

And plus, that would just show the Dev Team how to do it themselves.



How?


I'll think about it.

bootROM=Read only memory

Apple can't write to it. If they could they would have already. The data is physically burned into the chip.

bootROM=Read only memory

Apple can't write to it. If they could they would have already. The data is physically burned into the chip.

Physically burned eh? *has interesting mental image*

If Apple wanted to, they could flash it in the field. The risks are great, so they don't even try it.

I'm not sure but I think that's wrong, as the exploit for the 2G was found in the bootrom, and the exploit could not be modified or patched by software in any way. If you look at the Dev-Teams blog you will see it is a Pwned for life iPod, meaning no updates will be able to stop it being jailbroken. If anything in here is wrong, feel free to correct me.

It most probably lost us the next generation iPhone jailbreak. See the 24kpwn article on the iPhone wiki for more details.

I probably sound like a grouch, but in my humble opinion, having a jailbroken 3.0 beta is not useful to anyone who can't already figure out how to do it on their own, other than to show off at school. The Dev Team chooses not to come out with any jailbreaks because then we would be in the time-consuming position of having to roll out a new piece of software every couple of weeks or so, to track Apple's beta schedule. However, it's also annoying when those like the Russian "vortex" people come out with half-arsed jailbreaks that update QuickPwn with some patches anyone with the knowledge can generate in a few minutes, and then releases it without a word of credit to the people (mostly me, in fact, for QuickPwn) who actually spent a bazillion hours writing the code. (Not to mention technically illegal, since they are redistributing a modified version of our copyrighted code. But at least it's non-commercial).

It's very refreshing, though, to see people like jfb392 who are more responsible about it. :) It's also very cool that he and his compatriots tried to do this, since it's very hackerly to try to figure stuff out on your own.

It most probably lost us the next generation iPhone jailbreak. See the 24kpwn article on the iPhone wiki for more details.

I probably sound like a grouch, but in my humble opinion, having a jailbroken 3.0 beta is not useful to anyone who can't already figure out how to do it on their own, other than to show off at school. The Dev Team chooses not to come out with any jailbreaks because then we would be in the time-consuming position of having to roll out a new piece of software every couple of weeks or so, to track Apple's beta schedule. However, it's also annoying when those like the Russian "vortex" people come out with half-arsed jailbreaks that update QuickPwn with some patches anyone with the knowledge can generate in a few minutes, and then releases it without a word of credit to the people (mostly me, in fact, for QuickPwn) who actually spent a bazillion hours writing the code. (Not to mention technically illegal, since they are redistributing a modified version of our copyrighted code. But at least it's non-commercial).

It's very refreshing, though, to see people like jfb392 who are more responsible about it. :) It's also very cool that he and his compatriots tried to do this, since it's very hackerly to try to figure stuff out on your own.

Do you know much about the 24kpwn exploit? Well, implementing it into a 3.0 jailbreak? Because this seems to be what they are missing. Plus how would I learn abut all this stuff? It seems quite complex but I would like to help in some way. How do you get on the IRC channel?

Do you know much about the 24kpwn exploit? Well, implementing it into a 3.0 jailbreak? Because this seems to be what they are missing. Plus how would I learn abut all this stuff? It seems quite complex but I would like to help in some way. How do you get on the IRC channel?

Well, he did help develop the exploit. ;);)

Chris and jfb392 please PM me because i am on the Quicktooth Dev Team and we need some files from the firmware ... If you don't trust me just contact "xlr8"...if you want to see our FORUM go here (http://quicktooth.tk)

Chris and jfb392 please PM me because i am on the Quicktooth Dev Team and we need some files from the firmware ... If you don't trust me just contact "xlr8"...if you want to see our FORUM go to http://quicktooth.tk (here)

You are a Dev-Team, you jailbreak it. We said we are not distributing the jailbreak and we are sure as heck not distributing Apple's Copyrighted code. Having those few files won't enable Bluetooth the way you want it to. More than likely, you'll have to have an updated kernel as well as the APIs and the services that control Bluetooth. I have strong doubts that just moving these files over will simply work.

Chris, if you have a minute could you put up a thread in the Front Page Submssion subforum announcing something like 'iPod Touch 2G 3.0 Beta 2 Jailbreak Proof-of-Concept' kinda thing, with a brief and link back to this post? Then I'll front page it.

I would write it myself but I'm not sure what you would be happy to have shown on the FP and I don't want to edit your original post in this thread to make it FP suitable.

Cheers

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Chris , we need to copy the BlueTool and BTServer , we need to see how they act , and since you have access to the FileSystem we have made a .plist file to send a log to our PCs when its connected ... then we will compile the 3rd Party app for 2.2.1 and we will edit the BTserver and the BlueTool and the boot (BT) scripts.....If you can send me SOME files (including 3 folders) , just PM me....

mmmm.... what are these files... ? Chris has already said he won't provide copyright code...

omokas, you may want to edit this post up

Chris, if you have a minute could you put up a thread in the Front Page Submssion subforum announcing something like 'iPod Touch 2G 3.0 Beta 2 Jailbreak Proof-of-Concept' kinda thing, with a brief and link back to this post? Then I'll front page it.

I would write it myself but I'm not sure what you would be happy to have shown on the FP and I don't want to edit your original post in this thread to make it FP suitable.

Cheers
Sure, Do you want me to write an article about it in the FPS thread or would you like to write something, PM it to me, and have me edit it?

Chris , we need to copy the BlueTool and BTServer , we need to see how they act , and since you have access to the FileSystem we have made a .plist file to send a log to our PCs when its connected ... then we will compile the 3rd Party app for 2.2.1 and we will edit the BTserver and the BlueTool and the boot (BT) scripts.....If you can send me SOME files (including 3 folders) , just PM me....

You can send me what you have and I'll test it for you. That's it. I'm not giving you anything because it really isn't mine to give. It's Apple's.

Sent you a PM Chris.

It most probably lost us the next generation iPhone jailbreak. See the 24kpwn article on the iPhone wiki for more details.

I probably sound like a grouch, but in my humble opinion, having a jailbroken 3.0 beta is not useful to anyone who can't already figure out how to do it on their own, other than to show off at school. The Dev Team chooses not to come out with any jailbreaks because then we would be in the time-consuming position of having to roll out a new piece of software every couple of weeks or so, to track Apple's beta schedule. However, it's also annoying when those like the Russian "vortex" people come out with half-arsed jailbreaks that update QuickPwn with some patches anyone with the knowledge can generate in a few minutes, and then releases it without a word of credit to the people (mostly me, in fact, for QuickPwn) who actually spent a bazillion hours writing the code. (Not to mention technically illegal, since they are redistributing a modified version of our copyrighted code. But at least it's non-commercial).

It's very refreshing, though, to see people like jfb392 who are more responsible about it. :) It's also very cool that he and his compatriots tried to do this, since it's very hackerly to try to figure stuff out on your own.That's exactly how I feel about it too; it's not our job to use information and utilities you guys have willingly released to make your job harder.
I don't understand why people like Vortex release unofficial QuickPwn executables; I have released my own QuickPwn bundles (just filled with decrypted keys and a SHA1, wow, so difficult) and they have ended up being taken and thrown into distributed and modified QuickPwns.
I specifically don't include the executable because I think if you know how to use it, you should be using; that's how I feel with this situation too.
Releasing an executable that was created by the Dev Team with unofficial modifications just creates problems for you, and it isn't your job to support your modified software.

Will you be gracing us with your presence on IRC tonight?Sorry I never came back last night, I didn't feel very good and I still don't.
I also don't feel too encouraged after failing (yet again) to craft a 24kpwn LLB.

Front paged. Nice job Chris & jfb.

niceeee one =]

That's exactly how I feel about it too; it's not our job to use information and utilities you guys have willingly released to make your job harder.
I don't understand why people like Vortex release unofficial QuickPwn executables; I have released my own QuickPwn bundles (just filled with decrypted keys and a SHA1, wow, so difficult) and they have ended up being taken and thrown into distributed and modified QuickPwns.
I specifically don't include the executable because I think if you know how to use it, you should be using; that's how I feel with this situation too.
Releasing an executable that was created by the Dev Team with unofficial modifications just creates problems for you, and it isn't your job to support your modified software.

Sorry I never came back last night, I didn't feel very good and I still don't.
I also don't feel too encouraged after failing (yet again) to craft a 24kpwn LLB.

It's fine, I'll manage without you while you re-coop. You deserve it. Drink some OJ though, it'd be nice to have you around this week :) we've got lots to do.

Front paged. Nice job Chris & jfb.

Thanks again stu!

Great job again, another question, hope you don't mind me asking.

So will this be implemented in redTool upon the release of 3.0 (presumably June 8th), or slightly earlier? I don't mean to be intrusive or anything, as you guys are doing a great job, but could you please tell as an approximate month/season in which this is going to be released?

Great job again, another question, hope you don't mind me asking.

So will this be implemented in redTool upon the release of 3.0 (presumably June 8th), or slightly earlier? I don't mean to be intrusive or anything, as you guys are doing a great job, but could you please tell as an approximate month/season in which this is going to be released?

Well, if he can get it untethered, I'd bet it would be in redTool a few days after 3.0 is released.

But I don't think he would release the Tethered version, unless he can't find a way to get it untethered.

Front paged. Nice job Chris & jfb.Thanks!

It's fine, I'll manage without you while you re-coop. You deserve it. Drink some OJ though, it'd be nice to have you around this week :) we've got lots to do.



Thanks again stu!I'll definitely be around this week, even if I am sick, and probably tonight.
I'm still just in and out of sleep.

Great job again, another question, hope you don't mind me asking.

So will this be implemented in redTool upon the release of 3.0 (presumably June 8th), or slightly earlier? I don't mean to be intrusive or anything, as you guys are doing a great job, but could you please tell as an approximate month/season in which this is going to be released?Barring any changes Apple makes, we could probably release something day-of.
That is, if I can also successfully craft a 24kpwn LLB.
I have a couple months to figure that out though.

Thanks for the answer; I'll be waiting patiently and following twitters :D

can someone tell me how to jailbreak 3.0 on the 2g please?

Thanks

can someone tell me how to jailbreak 3.0 on the 2g please?

Thanks

That's what they're working on; read the thread.

i know but they said they wont release it for a while. I was wondering if they knew how to do it now? I understand if you cant tell me. If you can please do.

Thanks

can someone tell me how to jailbreak 3.0 on the 2g please?

ThanksWell, I just popped in here quick and I'm not on IRC, so I don't know our stance on releasing anything, but I keep changing my mind.
It also comes down to what Chris thinks, but Chronic actually said we wouldn't get in any trouble if we released anything.

If we were too, it'd be a long, very complicated write-up by me explaining how to do it.
And since I actually used an internal (and bloated) tool that I made to populate the ramdisk, I'm thinking about simply releasing a ramdisk base filled with the QuickPwn utilities, minus any Img3 container.
It'd contain no Apple copyrighted code (no patched images, that would be part of the tutorial) and would just be like distributing a disk image containing a program, which is not illegal by any means.
You would simply need a copy of the 3.0b2 ramdisk and the encryption keys (which I'll also make public with the write-up).

However, this is all a big-if.
We really have to think about it before releasing it, but I think it'd be worth it for fun and to simply shut up the haters.

i know but they said they wont release it for a while. I was wondering if they knew how to do it now? I understand if you cant tell me. If you can please do.

ThanksYes, we know how to do it now, it is just tethered because I'm a big noob.
We'll get it untethered eventually, I just need to keep re-reading the write up or talk with some people who actually know what they're doing.

i know but they said they wont release it for a while. I was wondering if they knew how to do it now? I understand if you cant tell me. If you can please do.

Thanks

Well, he jailbroke it, so he obviously know how...

But they still haven't figured out how to untether it. So just wait for 3.0 to come out, and hopefully they'll have a complete jailbreak by then.

Great job again, another question, hope you don't mind me asking.

So will this be implemented in redTool upon the release of 3.0 (presumably June 8th), or slightly earlier? I don't mean to be intrusive or anything, as you guys are doing a great job, but could you please tell as an approximate month/season in which this is going to be released?

You're fine, I need to answer this anyway.

We are not releasing this for several reasons:

First is how it's implemented. The jailbreak is tethered because we don't fully understand 24kpwn. jfb has been studying it almost exclusively for the past few days and he is basically stumped with an extra tag that Apple stuck in the 3.0 IMG3 header. At least, that's what he thinks.... That being how it is, the tether is a bit different than the original 2.2.1 tether in that there is more involved to trick the device to get it to boot. Overall, the redTool implementation of the 3.0 Tethered Booter takes about a minute to boot rather than 15-30 seconds.

The second is instability. 3.0 itself is relatively solid, however the jailbroken functionality is almost nonexistent. It took nearly 30 minutes just to get SSH working enough to spawn a shell to take that one screenshot. Cydia doesn't work yet and there really isn't a lot that can be done... except play with Spotlight :p And a bug has been found by seang and myself that when the device is put to sleep, it powers off. This is probably a kernel issue but it's kind of annoying.

Finally, we wanted to respect the dev-team. While we put a lot of hard work into this, we are still using the QuickPwn utilities within the ramdisk and we would rather not be so reliant on their work. This week we have Spring Break, we are hoping to make a crap load of progress on this and other areas. Hopefully we can release a plethora of redTool updates and features sooner than later. However, I doubt that we will include anything for 3.0.

yeah i understand if you cant release it. It would be great if you sent me a PM telling me how to do it. If you don't want to thats ok.

Thanks

WE ARE NOT WORTHY!!!!
you rock guys, specialy jfb392, he's done a lot of stuff for the community ;)

And to comment further on this new tag, I think the TYPE tag added into the Img3 container is playing with how the exploit works.
Certainly, it won't in the future, but it throws things off for someone who is trying to implement it (and only has on example of it, in which this tag didn't exist).
Not to mention, the payload code included in the image at 0x23000 probably needs to be changed too.
I assume it's written in ARM, which I don't know.

yeah jfb392 you rock

yeah i understand if you cant release it. It would be great if you sent me a PM telling me how to do it. If you don't want to thats ok.

Thanks

did u not read the above post? u would hafta boot it for one minute everytime u put it to sleep (cuz it powers off when u do that from some bug) u dont WANT to do it, even if u think u do, also, most apps DONT WORK, so get over urself and wait till they figure out a stable way to do things

yeah jfb392 you rockThanks, but it actually isn't that hard to do.
Without Chris, I wouldn't have even been able to test my theory.

I really need to get the money for a 2G.

And to comment further on this new tag, I think the TYPE tag added into the Img3 container is playing with how the exploit works.
Certainly, it won't in the future, but it throws things off for someone who is trying to implement it (and only has on example of it, in which this tag didn't exist).
Not to mention, the payload code included in the image at 0x23000 probably needs to be changed too.
I assume it's written in ARM, which I don't know.

Hey, we may have a bit of extra help. I'll talk to you about it when you get on IRC. This is very good help (I hope they aren't on your 'hate list'). I think I'm going on a bike ride, it's a nice day :)

wait till june when they release the 3g

Thanks, but it actually isn't that hard to do.
Without Chris, I wouldn't have even been able to test my theory, nor would it have been able to boot without his quick thinking.

I really need to get the money for a 2G.

Edited for clarity. ;) haha

Yay! We got a new Dev Team.
iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev Team and now redTool? Dev Team?

This is great for the iPod and iPhone community. :)

Yay! We got a new Dev Team.
iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev Team and now redTool? Dev Team?

This is great for the iPod and iPhone community. :)

We aren't a dev-team. If we had created this ourselves, sure, but we didn't.

did u not read the above post? u would hafta boot it for one minute everytime u put it to sleep (cuz it powers off when u do that from some bug) u dont WANT to do it, even if u think u do, also, most apps DONT WORK, so get over urself and wait till they figure out a stable way to do things

Yeah, that sleep bug is rather annoying. ;);)

Well... You're on the way. :p

What IRC are you on?
Would you talk open (just some of it) or is it all via /msg ?

Well... You're on the way. :p

What IRC are you on?
Would you talk open (just some of it) or is it all via /msg ?

irc.osx86.hu

#redtool

Hey, we may have a bit of extra help. I'll talk to you about it when you get on IRC. This is very good help (I hope they aren't on your 'hate list'). I think I'm going on a bike ride, it's a nice day :)That's great!
I don't really have a hate list, people who just go around here not really helping the community, but acting really superior get on my nerves.

Edited for clarity. ;) hahaHaha, it was kind of a fluke that we got it to boot anyways.
The whole boot process is really messed up.
Not to take any credit away from you, but really, the fact that we actually managed it is kind of a fluke.

The DeviceTree crap still bugs me, but I believe that'd be fixed using 24k.

Yay! We got a new Dev Team.
iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev Team and now redTool? Dev Team?

This is great for the iPod and iPhone community. :)We aren't a Dev Team and I don't like when people who don't deserve to be labeled one give themselves the label.
Chris develops software that aids in jailbreaks, and I'm just a kid who messes around.
We certainly won't be doing anything cutting edge without following the lead of the two teams who actually deserve the title "Dev Team".

That's great!
I don't really have a hate list, people who just go around here not really helping the community, but acting really superior get on my nerves.

Haha, it was kind of a fluke that we got it to boot anyways.
The whole boot process is really messed up.
Not to take any credit away from you, but really, the fact that we actually managed it is kind of a fluke.

The DeviceTree crap still bugs me, but I believe that'd be fixed using 24k.

We aren't a Dev Team and I don't like when people who don't deserve to be labeled one give themselves the label.
Chris develops software that aids in jailbreaks, and I'm just a kid who messes around.
We certainly won't be doing anything cutting edge without following the lead of the two teams who actually deserve the title "Dev Team".

I guess we could play on words and say that we're a couple of guys that like to develop new things for the community, but that's a stretch.

I think you're right about the devicetree thing, I actually have some reasoning behind it, I can't promise it's correct but we'll talk about it when you're on tonight. And fluke may not be the correct word... It just made sense :p Either way, it's done.

i dont see why ur focusing on trying to prove it i know 99% of us believe you

Is there no Bluetooth?!

yeah right try the iBluetooth thing. I think it will work..

yeah right try the iBluetooth thing. I think it will work..I don't think iBluetooth works with 3.0, regardless of the device.

i dont see why ur focusing on trying to prove it i know 99% of us believe you

because THESE pictures proof nothing.
Icons u can get on EVERY firmware since 2.0 and that console can be easily done since it is done by computer

because THESE pictures proof nothing.
Icons u can get on EVERY firmware since 2.0 and that console can be easily done since it is done by computer

Chris Stroud is a highly respected and trusted member of these forums. He would do nothing to deceive us. He would not waste his time pretending they had jailbroken the 2G 3.0b2. Why would he risk his solid reputation for a school boy prank?
The image shows new icons (c.f. stocks app) and the Voice Memo app icon, both only available on the 3.0 fw.
The image shows the Spotlight magnifying glass icon next to the page dots, only available on 3.0.
The image shows Icy and NES icons, proving a jailbreak and successful reboot.
Chris, jfb and Dev-Team members posting in this thread give supporting descriptive evidence backing up claim to a jailbreak.

If I had any doubt that this was the truth I would never have considered front paging this post.

SD

^agreed:D just read Chris's sig ;)

Nice avatar, though it's making me dizzy... Better than that cr@p one you had before :p

The image shows Icy and NES icons, proving a jailbreak and successful reboot.

its is clear that he REALLY jailbroken that device and yeah i know that it is the 3.0os. But it is a fact that IT COULD
be a fake [altough even i dont beieve he want to fool us] i only wanted to say that it could be faked easily. Simple create a bookmark to a internet-image which looks like icy icon/or other icons...and tada there u got ya icon

its is clear that he REALLY jailbroken that device and yeah i know that it is the 3.0os. But it is a fact that IT COULD
be a fake [altough even i dont beieve he want to fool us] i only wanted to say that it could be faked easily. Simple create a bookmark to a internet-image which looks like icy icon/or other icons...and tada there u got ya icon

IF I had done that, the iPhone OS would have strapped a glare onto the image just like every other webclip. It would have made the icon way shinier than the standard one, so even then, you can tell pretty easily that it's a fake.

This is legit, get over it :p

I thought redsn0w 0.3 was supposed to jailbreak 3.0b2 on my 2nd gen touch. It didn’t. Am I doing something wrong? Why didn’t 0.3 jailbreak it?

I thought redsn0w 0.3 was supposed to jailbreak 3.0b2 on my 2nd gen touch. It didn’t. Am I doing something wrong? Why didn’t 0.3 jailbreak it?

Someone lied to you.

its is clear that he REALLY jailbroken that device and yeah i know that it is the 3.0os. But it is a fact that IT COULD
be a fake [altough even i dont beieve he want to fool us] i only wanted to say that it could be faked easily. Simple create a bookmark to a internet-image which looks like icy icon/or other icons...and tada there u got ya icon

I like how you under lined and capitalized random words. :):) Chris, I should be home around 5:00 your time. ;);)

i just wish you guys would release it..
idk why you would even thing about holding something like this back...
who cares if it's untethered and it isn't user friendly. The dev team released their untethered version and it was appreciated by many.
If you released it, I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a GUI for it.
Seeing that this thread was already front paged without a release should tell you something. Just imagine what it would be like if you did release it.

If people can't handle the rough, untethered jailbreak, oh well.
Those people probably don't even know how to upgrade to 3.0 lol

i just wish you guys would release it..
idk why you would even thing about holding something like this back...
who cares if it's untethered and it isn't user friendly. The dev team released their untethered version and it was appreciated by many.
If you released it, I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a GUI for it.
Seeing that this thread was already front paged without a release should tell you something. Just imagine what it would be like if you did release it.

If people can't handle the rough, untethered jailbreak, oh well.
Those people probably don't even know how to upgrade to 3.0 lol

I wrote this thing... it's called redTool. Ever heard of it?

ok....your point?
If people cant handle that, oh well.

ok....your point?
If people cant handle that, oh well.

My point is that redTool will be the app to do it, when the time is right. The jailbreak is not for public consumption and is frustrating, even to me, as a dev.

Stop asking, you aren't going to change our decision to withhold it.

Looking at the first post, there's isn't actually that much proof. The top screenie could be a 1st gen. and the 2nd screenie could be photoshopped

My point is that redTool will be the app to do it, when the time is right. The jailbreak is not for public consumption and is frustrating, even to me, as a dev.

Stop asking, you aren't going to change our decision to withhold it.

okay.
2g users have to wait for everything. it gets annoying.

Well I'm glad that its actually done, and i respect you for actually taking your time to actually do it.

=D

It COULD be fake it COULD be a 1g ipod jb on 3.0 but i dont think it is

It COULD be fake it COULD be a 1g ipod jb on 3.0 but i dont think it is

That's what I said ^^

And like I said, you give me a better way to prove it, I will. But think fast, I need to revert to 2.2.1 so I can test a plethora of new goodies coming into redTool.

video. upload to youtube.

video. upload to youtube.

No, that's stupid. I mean, I could... but it's kinda pointless to have to do so.

I've got billions more to do with my time with redTool.

Someone lied to you.

So what does redsn0w 0.3 do?

So what does redsn0w 0.3 do?

It simply jailbreaks 2.2.1 and gives you a DeviceTree capable of handling logoMe.

How much for the 3.0 jailbreak?

How much for the 3.0 jailbreak?

I'm sure it's not for sale, and if it were, it would be pointless to buy as there are too many bugs in the Jailbreak for it to work. I have heard there is a bug in the sleep mode, so when you put your iPod into sleep mode, it shuts down completely. This is the biggest problem, as the Jailbreak is currently tethered, so you would need a computer to reboot, meaning you would need to use a computer every time you put it to sleep. Also I think the boot time is around 1 minute.

Does this jailbreak patch expiry of the betas when a new one is released (unlike the Russian one) :D??? Just asking.

Does this jailbreak patch expiry of the betas when a new one is released (unlike the Russian one) :D??? Just asking.

Being that it's an internal-only jailbreak, no. But it could be added, I'm sure.

Right now, I'm working on other things ;)

I'm sure it's not for sale, and if it were, it would be pointless to buy as there are too many bugs in the Jailbreak for it to work. I have heard there is a bug in the sleep mode, so when you put your iPod into sleep mode, it shuts down completely. This is the biggest problem, as the Jailbreak is currently tethered, so you would need a computer to reboot, meaning you would need to use a computer every time you put it to sleep. Also I think the boot time is around 1 minute.

Sorry, I would say how much time for the release. :D

Looking at the first post, there's isn't actually that much proof. The top screenie could be a 1st gen. and the 2nd screenie could be photoshopped

people would beleive you if not for the fact that VOICE MEMOS is on the screen

and if chris were trying to prank us, studangerous would have seen thru it (im sure the mods hav seen their fair share of fakes) and not frontpaged it,

this is real, accept it

The Voice Memos icon doesn't really prove anything either.
Obviously the only convincing proof we can show you would be to allow you to use it yourselves, and that'd just lead to problems.
We have already had enough problems ourselves, so I don't see you guys really succeeding with it.
There are still numerous unsolved problems (the kernel does not seem to like the DeviceTree, patched or unpatched) and there is apparently a crashing problem (probably the fault of my hasty kernel patching).

What is the point of faking things though?
Chris and I aren't kids with 1 or 2 posts; we're dedicated to helping the community.
If you really want to call a fake on this, you're entitled to do so, but it is entirely possible to do if you know your stuff.

Fortunately, I think both of us are too old to think faking things is cool.
This isn't about scene cred or looking cool, I believe it isn't even really about iPhone hacking; it's actually helping us learn more about a bunch of aspects related to hacking and programming.

great job guys.

congrats on the jailbreak :)
been getting up at 2-3am to check on this thread, for any new info, this is really cool (and my time zone means i have to get up that early LOL)

best of luck with this and redtool, i reckon you guys can get really far with this stuff, and im certainly a fan :D

and to you guys calling this a fake: its not, get over it, seriously, theyre developers of major jailbreaking solutions, why would they fake it?

You're not you're an amateur

You're not you're an amateurWhat?

You're not you're an amateur

lol if that was directed at me, i made an account this morning just to say that haha

Want proof?

Chris posted it.

Why did I get a warning, it was a joke.
He said he was a fan and because he currently an amatuer (his rank) I said that. I don't understand how that deserves a warning

so is there any progress on the bluetooth after jb?

I've read alot of posts from Chris, and I for one believe him. But his screen shot should have been taken with BT enabled at least - then it would have killed the "it's a 1G" argument.

Seems like all this is just a waste of time considering it's all being done for a stupid beta.

Seems like all this is just a waste of time considering it's all being done for a stupid beta.

That makes great sense! Perhaps we can just sit around and twiddle our thumbs and then when the official firmware drops, we can then scramble to prepare redTool for it :)

You guys are such babies, i've never seen most of the community call out respected members claiming an illegitimate jailbreak

Everyone here are dope bags..... besides Tesla :-) (kissing but :- )

Everyone here are dope bags..... besides Tesla :-) (kissing but :- )

guys, Chris and jfb have been working really hard on this, from weeks of following these guys as a public viewer and now a member, give them some respect...and I'm on an iPod so I can't copy the other quote, but stop being so disrespectful, stop calling this an illigetimate fraud simply because you can't do it yourself. I can't either, but that doesn't mean this is fake.

hear hear paperclippit.

its just simple if you dont believe it just shut the f*ck up... your just wasting energy... for chris and jfb just dont post until you release it so that other people has nothing to say... "to try is to believe" you just making other people envy you guys because you guys have it and they dont... what the point posting it if you'll not share it?

its just simple if you dont believe it just shut the f*ck up... your just wasting energy... for chris and jfb just dont post until you release it so that other people has nothing to say... "to try is to believe" you just making other people envy you guys because you guys have it and they dont... what the point posting it if you'll not share it?

To let people know it can be done, so as soon as 3.0 is released it can be jailbroken.

I wasn't calling Chris and them dopebags..... I think that the people not believing him are dopebags

its just simple if you dont believe it just shut the f*ck up... your just wasting energy... for chris and jfb just dont post until you release it so that other people has nothing to say... "to try is to believe" you just making other people envy you guys because you guys have it and they dont... what the point posting it if you'll not share it?So we don't have people like you saying "i brick mai ipOd????????" after we tell you how to do it.

Also, we're trying 3.0b3 right now.

lol... email me the link to 3.0b3... JUST KIDDING!!! ... I don't want to get banned..... :-)

Here form Italy we're sad with our old 2.2.1... If the Jailbreak would be released I think intelligent people won't say anything if the iPod would get bricked for their errors...
Anyway I think I would stick on 2.2.1 also if it was released... :D
However... does the bluetooth work? I tried it in a dev iPod, but my PDA was only detecting it as a "service provider" or something like that... I was like a bluetooth headphone I think... Is it possible to use A2DP also in our iPods :D?

Just thought I'd throw it out that I'm half way to having Beta 3 jailbroken.... I'll post screens when/if I finish. There *may* be some kernel differences that keep it from booting. Hopefully I can fix that :)

nice, its been out for only a few hours and you've gotten halfway, congrats :D

hm and also, any knowledge if bluetooth'll eventually work on this ipod? my dad brought home bluetooth headphones and, well, i don't have anything bluetoothworthy except for this ipod.

nice, its been out for only a few hours and you've gotten halfway, congrats :D

hm and also, any knowledge if bluetooth'll eventually work on this ipod? my dad brought home bluetooth headphones and, well, i don't have anything bluetoothworthy except for this ipod.

I haven't played with Bluetooth very much and I don't have any headphones or anything to test with it. I know it wouldn't pair with my MacBook Pro, which is probably from a lack of A2DP (isn't that what it's called?). I doubt that apple will allow file sharing simply because it would seem to me to be pointless for a non jailbroken device to have file sharing on a locked filesystem. I'd say a jailbroken app will make some magic happen though.

As for the jailbreak, I have retired for the night but I will start back in the morning. I'm going to take a crack at 24kpwn in the process but that's doubtful that I'll get anything. I just wish that this was untethered so that I could actually get it inside redTool :p

The 2G jailbreak for 3.0b3 will be done tomorrow after I get around to patching the images, the kernel problem is fixed.

Yeah, it will be done, but it will also released?

The 2G jailbreak for 3.0b3 will be done tomorrow after I get around to patching the images, the kernel problem is fixed.

Don't worry about it, I've got it. At least I hope so... I really don't see why I can't do it at this point. I'd get on irc but I don't feel like it haha.

Yeah, it will be done, but it will also released?Probably not, we don't want to provide support for it, especially since it's tethered for now.

Don't worry about it, I've got it. At least I hope so... I really don't see why I can't do it at this point. I'd get on irc but I don't feel like it haha.I can do the patches tomorrow if they don't work for you.
If you have any questions though, I'll be on IRC tomorrow.

Nice work guys ;) can't wait till the full release is out, jailbroken and made public!

me too :D
although the very idea it's being jailbroken right now already is good enough :D


bahaha my brother's going to rage when he finds out i've been using his developer's licence ;P
especially when he finds out i took his ipod touch by mistake and restored it BEFORE finding out the hard way that it wasn't...mine :|

goodnight developers! see you in the morning...if i haven't gone to bed yet :P
(damn australian time differences)

PLEASE NO ONE ELSE ASK FOR THE IPT2G 3.0 beta JAILBREAK TO BE RELEASED.

They will release it when they are good and ready to.

bahaha my brother's going to rage when he finds out i've been using his developer's licence ;P
especially when he finds out i took his ipod touch by mistake and restored it BEFORE finding out the hard way that it wasn't...mine :|

Fuck, that just made me laugh so hard! :D

Good to know betas are jailbroken too :)

nothing still... just the bragging rights...

thank you you two. i just finished reading all 17 pages and would just like to say thanks for all the work you two are putting into this. you guys Rock with a capital R.

what program did you use to jail break 3.0 on 2g???

what program did you use to jail break 3.0 on 2g???

his own software, which is not availbe for download or distrubution. it is Tethered, so its pointless anyway.

just wait until it is integrated into redTool

what program did you use to jail break 3.0 on 2g???A lot of it was actually crafted by hand from prior knowledge.

A lot of it was actually crafted by hand from prior knowledge.

Yeah, software is for noobs :p

I can't wait till you guys release the actual redTool jailbreak for the final version of 3.0. I have no idea why people want you to release the beta jailbreak. Its in a beta for a reason, which is for devs to test and make new apps for 3.0.

I can't wait till you guys release the actual redTool jailbreak for the final version of 3.0. I have no idea why people want you to release the beta jailbreak. Its in a beta for a reason, which is for devs to test and make new apps for 3.0.

Yeah.......... we need some feedback from Chronic or Planetbeing on just how to implement 24kpwn before we can get that ball rolling. I mean, it's fun and all to do this but it's pointless when it's tethered :p

Yeah.......... we need some feedback from Chronic or Planetbeing on just how to implement 24kpwn before we can get that ball rolling. I mean, it's fun and all to do this but it's pointless when it's tethered :p

Well not really, remember the first jailbreak the dev team released was tethered also and people were content with that, but I mean why would people want to jailbreak something that barely any apps work for? I mean I understand why you would do it to implement it into redTool later, but I mean for persons like me, who just scratch the surface of what a jailbreak is.

Yeah.......... we need some feedback from Chronic or Planetbeing on just how to implement 24kpwn before we can get that ball rolling. I mean, it's fun and all to do this but it's pointless when it's tethered :p

have they replied to you at all? (if you have contacted them)

have they replied to you at all? (if you have contacted them)

We talk to them on IRC several times a week, but they have certain secrets that they like to keep.

Yeah, software is for noobs :p

Software isn't for noobs. The first day the redsn0w teathered jailbreak came out i did it on windows and it was easy! But now i just use software because its easier and quicker

Software isn't for noobs. The first day the redsn0w teathered jailbreak came out i did it on windows and it was easy! But now i just use software because its easier and quicker

Yeap, that's why I write it :p

Yeap, that's why I write it :p

i dont write programs. Im not that good at it and other people do it better and quicker than me so i just wait for them ;0

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.It seriously takes all of five minutes to patch the images and package them into a ramdisk, so yeah, I must have lots of time and a boring life.

Thanks for the input.

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.

I don't like you.

I don't like you.

Me either.
OFF TOPIC: Ipwnnubletz did you find your old avatar?

Me either.
OFF TOPIC: Ipwnnubletz did you find your old avatar?

Yes I did.

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.

Yea your not liked by me.

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.

your an ASS

you probably too stupid to know your way through terminal and thats why you think it takes such a long time

i can he's right.... only bum's can do it...

i can he's right.... only bum's can do it...Oh, really?
That's why six images share the same exact 16 bytes every version (two bytes are patched from 40 42 to 00 20 to make the check return true always), the DeviceTree patch is plain-text, and the kernel has minor changes each time?
Your definition of "bum" must be anyone, since literally anyone could do this.

Nice attempt at a sentence there, too.

Basicly no point jailbreaking the 3.0 OS, if none of the apps work. You must have a lot of time on your hands to do it, and a pretty boring life.. :P
...Unless you want to search with Spotlight, which you can just use Finder to go through and 'find'.

i can he's right.... only bum's can do it...


I'd swear/insult but I might get a warning.
If you don't like what they're doing or you're here to be an idiot, go away. They're doing a great job for the community and all you guys can do is come here and say things like that, which you probably don't even know what half the things discussed here means?

and if you're pissed cos they're not releasing it, then read exactly why they're not. If you think you're so good, then go ahead and do it. Otherwise, just let them do their work and don't go dissing it.
jeez.

They aren't doing anything for the community if they don't release how they did it.... we might as well wait for the dev team for the full release

actually jfb392 told us how to do near the very start of the thread

They aren't doing anything for the community if they don't release how they did it.... we might as well wait for the dev team for the full release

How many times do I need to say before it's clear that the only reason we are doing all of this is so that we can integrate it with redTool so that when 3.0 is officially released, everything can hopefully go smoothly?

sheeeeeeeesh

Oopss i didnt said any names... I guess your being affected.. Huhu.. Want me to change your diapers?? Because your not standing there for a long time... Oh its not bum i guess its nerdbum haha... And atleast you know you have fans say hi to them...
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I'd swear/insult but I might get a warning.
If you don't like what they're doing or you're here to be an idiot, go away. They're doing a great job for the community and all you guys can do is come here and say things like that, which you probably don't even know what half the things discussed here means?

and if you're pissed cos they're not releasing it, then read exactly why they're not. If you think you're so good, then go ahead and do it. Otherwise, just let them do their work and don't go dissing it.
jeez.

Is that right?? Are you the groupy of the band?? Haha
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How many times do I need to say before it's clear that the only reason we are doing all of this is so that we can integrate it with redTool so that when 3.0 is officially released, everything can hopefully go smoothly?

sheeeeeeeesh

well change the thread title to 2g jailbreak 3.0 on june 2009

Oopss i didnt said any names... I guess your being affected.. Huhu.. Want me to change your diapers?? Because your not standing there for a long time... Oh its not bum i guess its nerdbum haha... And atleast you know you have fans say hi to them...
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Is that right?? Are you the groupy of the band?? Haha
I get the impression you're trying to insult what we're doing to make yourself look better. I would suggest you take a step back and examine the situation. You are the one who is going to an online forum and attacking some 'nerds' for having nothing better to do, when in fact, you have even less better things to do because you are attacking them.

Way to be cool, bro.

Post reported.
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well change the thread title to 2g jailbreak 3.0 on june 2009

Even if I did, people would still whine. You aren't changing or helping anything.

kthxbai

Jeez pluspeed. You seem to be having a hard time realising that people might actually want to be able to get the FULL VERSION out as soon as possible after released... Yeah, i know i will prolly get flamed by you FOR NOT CARING THAT IT AINT RELEASED, but i dont really care...

IMO, if it means that the full version will be jailbroken quicker, I say, dont release it...

Am i right in saying that it is still tethered anyways Chris?

Jeez pluspeed. You seem to be having a hard time realising that people might actually want to be able to get the FULL VERSION out as soon as possible after released... Yeah, i know i will prolly get flamed by you FOR NOT CARING THAT IT AINT RELEASED, but i dont really care...

IMO, if it means that the full version will be jailbroken quicker, I say, dont release it...

Am i right in saying that it is still tethered anyways Chris?

You are correct. We haven't even finished working on Beta 3. To us, having redTool ready first is the number one goal. Once redTool is ready, we can have everything else done within a day or two. redTool should then be able to take on just about any firmware. Until then, we aren't releasing nada.

Yeah, i am happy with that... No point in releasing it if it is not implemented into redTool (Or something) so that n00bs end up trying it and then you/we are landed with helping them all fix it (because they did something wrong :p)

Like i say, you have all my support, and when it is Released, i will be happy :) But untill then, i am content with 2.2.1

(OT™) how do you "report" posts?

When looking at a post, look up to the top Right Corner, (Next to the post number, above their Device info) There is a triangle... Click that.

*f*

5 months in iptf. and i have never came across that. laugh hard.

It is the same on every vBulletin forum (Not the position...) Just look for a red Triangle :p

I have experience from other vbulletin forums so...

'Say thanks, by leaving +rep' tehehehe :p

what i go to bed, after telling him to be more reasonable, and this is what i get? a one line paying out? omg lucky im in a different country and its 5am, man, and hes banned already so meh

sheesh. im going back to sleep, its saturday morning and i dont have work till 2, *yawn*

*f*

5 months in iptf. and i have never came across that. laugh hard.

It's ok, I just recently found the "View First Unread" button... makes finding new posts wayyyy easier :p

How to jailbreak it?

How to jailbreak it?

Well, currently you cannot jailbreak iTouch 2G OS 3.0 beta, because dev-team won't to release the official jailbreak tool until the final os will came up. But if you have a 1g iTouch, you can jailbreak with QuickPWN Beta. :)

Well you're probably a 2G person in which case you're probably either going i have to

i) wait till June;
ii) pray there might be a preview release or a working model of some sort; or
iii) do it yourself.

Don't worry, it'll be here eventually, besides even if you jailbreak it now, pretty much nothin works and you'll have to have it plugged into your comp all the time unless you never put it to sleep, which is unlikely. :)

Well you're probably a 2G person in which case you're probably either going i have to

i) wait till June;
ii) pray there might be a preview release or a working model of some sort; or
iii) do it yourself.

Don't worry, it'll be here eventually, besides even if you jailbreak it now, pretty much nothin works and you'll have to have it plugged into your comp all the time unless you never put it to sleep, which is unlikely. :)

Well, we can probably fix the sleep bug by being a little more cautious with the kernel patch and as soon as we figure out something for 24kpwn, we can untether it. Otherwise, it isn't of much use to anyone.

Well, we can probably fix the sleep bug by being a little more cautious with the kernel patch and as soon as we figure out something for 24kpwn, we can untether it. Otherwise, it isn't of much use to anyone.

You can't put it to sleep? Lol. That is useless.

You can't put it to sleep? Lol. That is useless.Sure you can, it was just a bad (quick) kernel patch by me.

Just wondering, whats the obstacle with 24kpwn and implementing the exploit in 3.0?

I'm just curious BTW :p

Just wondering, whats the obstacle with 24kpwn and implementing the exploit in 3.0?

I'm just curious BTW :pWell, the LLB has to be crafted very carefully.
You cannot simply use a 2.2.1 image or make the same changes to a 3.0 LLB.
The offsets have been thrown off a bit by the new TYPE tag in the Img3 (well, they may have, at least from what I've read and then concluded).
The whole exploit is a challenge to think about in your head, and like I've said, not having a device to test on really hinders progress.

Well, the LLB has to be crafted very carefully.
You cannot simply use a 2.2.1 image or make the same changes to a 3.0 LLB.
The offsets have been thrown off a bit by the new TYPE tag in the Img3 (well, they may have, at least from what I've read and then concluded).
The whole exploit is a challenge to think about in your head, and like I've said, not having a device to test on really hinders progress.



dude, the fact you do all this withOUT a 2g is brilliant already D:

Sure you can, it was just a bad (quick) kernel patch by me.

Ok. That's good. :) You know, that would be the best way ever for Apple to discourage jailbreaking. Voids warranty hasn't worked. Declaring it falsely illegal hasn't worked. But disabling sleep mode on devices that show certain things wrong with the firmwares, would leave nobody willing to have an iPod that can only run for 5 hours straight.

I don't know if it's actually possible though, especially without messing up a lot, and keeping legit people from sleeping.

dude, the fact you do all this withOUT a 2g is brilliant already D:It's not brilliant by any means really.
I mean, planetbeing theorized 24kpwn without owning a 2G.

Ok. That's good. :) You know, that would be the best way ever for Apple to discourage jailbreaking. Voids warranty hasn't worked. Declaring it falsely illegal hasn't worked. But disabling sleep mode on devices that show certain things wrong with the firmwares, would leave nobody willing to have an iPod that can only run for 5 hours straight.

I don't know if it's actually possible though, especially without messing up a lot, and keeping legit people from sleeping.Sure, it's entirely possible, but incredibly unneeded and can easily be patched out.

But, I wouldn't put it past Apple to hire some engineers to think something like this up for a device that's already vulnerable forever.

It's not brilliant by any means really.
I mean, planetbeing theorized 24kpwn without owning a 2G.

Sure, it's entirely possible, but incredibly unneeded and can easily be patched out.

But, I wouldn't put it past Apple to hire some engineers to think something like this up for a device that's already vulnerable forever.

Thank goodness. But I'm sure that Apple would think ahead and put these things all over the place.

I hope I didn't give Apple any ideas. :eek:

Thank goodness. But I'm sure that Apple would think ahead and put these things all over the place.

I hope I didn't give Apple any ideas. :eek:Again, if they try to do anything, it can easily be combated.

Ill test anything for you. Im open for business on my 2g because i know i cant brick it. A little thing called DFU mode it saved my ipods life

yeah me too

Ill test anything for you. Im open for business on my 2g because i know i cant brick it. A little thing called DFU mode it saved my ipods life

yeah me too

There isn't currently anything to test... but if we need someone to test something, we'll let you know :)

There isn't currently anything to test... but if we need someone to test something, we'll let you know :)

alrighttt. Im happy to test cause if i do test something, hopefully i will be the first to jailbreak!!! or close to that anyways ha

Chris Stroud is a highly respected and trusted member of these forums. He would do nothing to deceive us. He would not waste his time pretending they had jailbroken the 2G 3.0b2. Why would he risk his solid reputation for a school boy prank?
The image shows new icons (c.f. stocks app) and the Voice Memo app icon, both only available on the 3.0 fw.
The image shows the Spotlight magnifying glass icon next to the page dots, only available on 3.0.
The image shows Icy and NES icons, proving a jailbreak and successful reboot.
Chris, jfb and Dev-Team members posting in this thread give supporting descriptive evidence backing up claim to a jailbreak.

If I had any doubt that this was the truth I would never have considered front paging this post.

SD

give him the ban hammer lol

chill
Nimrods like biorio are not worth the time

give him the ban hammer lol

chill
Nimrods like biorio are not worth the time

lets not and say we did

thanks chris

oh yes, me too :D
i has a freshly wiped ipod touch ready for more tinkering :D

OK i want a jailbreak.

OK i want a jailbreak.
You don't say

OK i want a jailbreak.

YAY!! Good for you.

Find out how to do it on your own.

OK i want a jailbreak.

Don't demand things here!! ;);)

I Don't want jailbreak, Can i demand that :)

i featured this thread on my blog (google.com)

i featured this thread on my blog (http://www.google.com)

Bad idea. You just gave yourself away. Mr. "REDACTED"

Bad idea. You just gave yourself away. Mr. "REDACTED"

What?

i featured this thread on my blog (google.com)

Lucky you ninja edited your unpermissoned link after Tes's comment (mods can see edits fyi). No need to pull your blog page down though... I edited your personal details out of the posts

Bad idea. You just gave yourself away. Mr. "REDACTED"

Mr. Who???? :D

I don't post on these boards often, usually I'm lurking behind threads and waiting for big news to pop up. I've been reading up on the 2G 3.0 Beta jailbreak, and watching the progress. Your hard work on the 2G 3.0 jailbreak is much appreciated.

Knowing that the dev team is probably holding back information on the 24kpwn implementation to the 3.0 beta (for good reason, I suppose), would you mind providing us with a manual release? I didn't mind being tethered to a computer before, and it doesn't seem like much of a deal to be tethered for another couple months. You don't have to provide support or anything, just a brief description on how to implement the jailbreak. After seeing how much the community got involved with redsn0w lite, support probably wont be a huge issue. I assume the masses finally understand what DFU mode is.


I hate being another anonymous fellow trying to get ahold of something.. My intention is to suggest throwing the jailbreak our way in a mature manner without jumping up and down, smashing my head against a keyboard saying "AYE WANTZ JAILBRAKE!!!!!1!11!!!".

It's under you're discretion to release this, and I fully understand if you can't/don't.

I don't post on these boards often, usually I'm lurking behind threads and waiting for big news to pop up. I've been reading up on the 2G 3.0 Beta jailbreak, and watching the progress. Your hard work on the 2G 3.0 jailbreak is much appreciated.

Knowing that the dev team is probably holding back information on the 24kpwn implementation to the 3.0 beta (for good reason, I suppose), would you mind providing us with a manual release? I didn't mind being tethered to a computer before, and it doesn't seem like much of a deal to be tethered for another couple months. You don't have to provide support or anything, just a brief description on how to implement the jailbreak. After seeing how much the community got involved with redsn0w lite, support probably wont be a huge issue. I assume the masses finally understand what DFU mode is.


I hate being another anonymous fellow trying to get ahold of something.. My intention is to suggest throwing the jailbreak our way in a mature manner without jumping up and down, smashing my head against a keyboard saying "AYE WANTZ JAILBRAKE!!!!!1!11!!!".

It's under you're discretion to release this, and I fully understand if you can't/don't.It seems like you'd be one of those gracious users that would understand the "no support" warning and understand how to get it working correctly, but unfortunately many do not.

As an example, when we first started this thread, we said that we wouldn't be releasing anything (and I had actually thought about doing so for awhile), but then I had to start emptying my private messages every day because I was getting messages asking "how jailbreak 3.0????".
So, as much as you warn people, I guess some people don't get it.

Plus, we haven't really messed around with beta 3 that much.
I really don't know what happened, but it just doesn't work (my fault probably).
It is really completely pointless and was just a fun proof-of-concept thing, I guess.
I can't even stand 3.0 jailbroken on my 1G..

It seems like you'd be one of those gracious users that would understand the "no support" warning and understand how to get it working correctly, but unfortunately many do not.

As an example, when we first started this thread, we said that we wouldn't be releasing anything (and I had actually thought about doing so for awhile), but then I had to start emptying my private messages every day because I was getting messages asking "how jailbreak 3.0????".
So, as much as you warn people, I guess some people don't get it.

Plus, we haven't really messed around with beta 3 that much.
I really don't know what happened, but it just doesn't work (my fault probably).
It is really completely pointless and was just a fun proof-of-concept thing, I guess.
I can't even stand 3.0 jailbroken on my 1G..

Understandable, I'm a very patient man. I have no problem waiting another month for the actual firmware to be released, and the iPhone Dev Team jailbreak release that will promptly follow. You guys just keep on doing what you're doing, and have some fun with it.

I just grabbed the 3.0 firmware for the concept, and didn't expect any sort of jailbreak for the beta. I have sticky fingers, and like obtaining things I shouldn't.

Thanks for the swift and blunt answer, though. Much appreciated.

We'd be seeing a ton of stupid threads asking for help because they "bricked" their iPods after attempting, and failing, to do the jailbreak if the jailbreak was released. It's a good thing you never released it.

Yeah. Guys just wait. I betcha chronic is implementing 24kpwn into 3.0 now. And why do people want 3.0 jailbreak again? I just had a mind shift; THE 3.0b3 JAILBREAK IS USELESS! Cydia doesn't even work... :-/

this is sick.... can't wait

ps. why the hell would anyone post up a fake image? 3.0 isn't even coming out until June, be concerned with jailbreaking with the stable fw

this is sick.... can't wait

ps. why the hell would anyone post up a fake image? 3.0 isn't even coming out until June, be concerned with jailbreaking with the stable fw

And where is this "fake image"?

this is sick.... can't wait

ps. why the hell would anyone post up a fake image? 3.0 isn't even coming out until June, be concerned with jailbreaking with the stable fw

I don't think you understand the OP. He successfully jailbroke the new firmware, but not fully. He still needs to implement the 24kpwn, which I can safely assume that the iPhone Dev Team and Chronic are holding back until the final release.

That image on the first post is anything but fake. It's 100% real, just not finished.. And most likely wont be released.

I don't think you understand the OP. He successfully jailbroke the new firmware, but not fully. He still needs to implement the 24kpwn, which I can safely assume that the iPhone Dev Team and Chronic are holding back until the final release.

That image on the first post is anything but fake. It's 100% real, just not finished.. And most likely wont be released.

nice hahaha

man just wait for the iphone dev team. all were talking about here is the progress were not actually working on the jailbreak, iphone dev team is. There probally just holding it off till the final 3.0

yeah we dont need progress we need action ahahaha

yeah we dont need progress we need action ahahaha

i agree wit this dude haha. but this is cool talkin bout the jailbreak. Hopefully the iphone dev team won't hold this off because apple won't try to change it again cause they already know we can jailbreak 3.0, so whats the point of them trying to fix it? a couple extra bucks??? i wouldn't think that would matter to them.

Actually they can change the hardware to stop the dev team jailbreaking it. Thats why they were reluctant to release the untethered 2g jailbreak.