I was just looking around in SSH on my iPod Touch 2G Firmware 3.0 and i found the BlueTool init script for the iPod touch 3,1:

**EDIT**
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/imgcache2/46194.png


Found in: "/etc/bluetool/"


BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0153.0155_N72_032609.hcd
BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0015.0016_Olympic_021809_37. 4MHz.hcd
iPhone1,1.boot.script
iPhone1,1.deepsleep.script
iPhone1,1.init.script
iPod2,1.boot.script
iPod2,1.deepsleep.script
iPod2,1.init.script
iPod3,1.boot.script
iPod3,1.deepsleep.script
iPod3,1.init.script
pcm-example.script


There is supposedly going to be a BCM4329 which is Bluetooth 2.1+EDR that has 802.11n wireless.

site here: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329#tab=features-tab

I'll update if I happen to find anything else about the iPod3,1

Screenshot it? I'm not sure why a bluetool init script would be including that information...

Nice find dude. This very well indicates that a new iPod Touch has been in the works and is bound to be unleashed by fall '09. I'm friggin excited man..! :D

Man;1647077']Nice find dude. This very well indicates that a new iPod Touch has been in the works and is bound to be unleashed by fall '09. I'm friggin excited man..! :D

No, don't believe this. A bluetool init script wouldn't include that.

Man;1647077']Nice find dude. This very well indicates that a new iPod Touch has been in the works and is bound to be unleashed by fall '09. I'm friggin excited man..! :D

Thanx lol. I was just curious as to what I could find on the device that i could mess around with, and i came across that.

No, don't believe this. A bluetool init script wouldn't include that.

here is the script shot

proof enough?

Awesome find! I like what I'm looking at.

I hope the new device is relatively cheap, cause i want one now even more.

Especially if it is going to be improved upon.

:)

I'll probably buy this one instead of an iPhone until the next iPhone is released, next year.
:)

If anyone wants to look themselves, SSH and look in etc/bluetool.

Nice! This year I'm gonna upgrade, too, so I'm excited! Would evidence of a camera be there this early, by any chance? :-)

It's possible, but might not be so obvious.

Yeah, that's what I thought. But personally, I think there will be a camera on it, just because Apple stressed it in the 3GS.

True, but if you think about it they might not until they add something even more to the phone. They'll probably want more people to buy the more expensive product.

Yeah, but they will want a bigger profit for the R&D they did for the camera and implementation. Anyways, they will need a 'killer' feature this year, just like last. Last year it was "The first iPod with a speaker". This year, "Thr first iPod with a camera", maybe.

Good point :), a camera in the iPod Touch would be awesome!

Now all apple needs to do is add OBEX for sending pictures and I'll be good. Though I'm not sure how likely OBEX would be though

Heck, I just hate how Apple inches towards new features. It is soooo annoying. But, since the new iPod is 3.1 means that it will prolly have some pretty new features (camera, camera, camera....) just because it isn't iPod touch 2.2. But anyways, if they wanted to make it perfect, it'd be Camera, GPS, magnetometer, and ummm... Voice Control, with a built-in mic. That'd be great. And sooo not gonna happen. Oh well :-(

Nice find man.

If there was a camera in the iPod touch 3G I wouldn't care as much about not having an iPhone... that is of course if I upgrade anyway cause I only got mine a few months ago.

Heck, I just hate how Apple inches towards new features. It is soooo annoying. But, since the new iPod is 3.1 means that it will prolly have some pretty new features (camera, camera, camera....) just because it isn't iPod touch 2.2. But anyways, if they wanted to make it perfect, it'd be Camera, GPS, magnetometer, and ummm... Voice Control, with a built-in mic. That'd be great. And sooo not gonna happen. Oh well :-(

Yeah, it is kind of annoying but oh well. We decided to go with, and stick with apple. I would like to have all of the iPhone features (except the phone part) without the price tag.

Yeah, it is kind of annoying but oh well. We decided to go with, and stick with apple.

I would like to have all of the iPhone features (except the phone part) without the price tag.
Yea, the chances of that I expect are not very high because then people would most of the time not get an iPhone. They might add things like GPS somehow not 3G internet for many reasons like that you need a sim card anyway and that would really put people off the iPhone, anyway I digress.

Well, personally, if Palm were to release a device with webOS that wasn't a phone, I would consider getting it, instead of iPod touch 3rd gen. But sshh, thats a secret! ;-)

Well, personally, if Palm were to release a device with webOS that wasn't a phone, I would consider getting it, instead of iPod touch 3rd gen. But sshh, thats a secret! ;-)

It's ok we won't tell :P

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I trust Apple to bring the touch "up to speed" so to speak.

Yeah, I hope Apple does. I mean, with the 3GS, they did bring it up to speed (literally), so that's nice. But I really hope Apple goes above and beyond with this next iPod touch. The 2G was really more of an evelutionary change (I think) to the 1st gen ipod. So I am hoping that there will be a lot more to look forward to on the 3rd generation, since my 1st gen is getting on in age (typing on it sucks, the keyboard is very laggy) and I want some new features. And my name suggests a camera would be good... :-)

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, keeping our fingers crossed.

Yeah, the worst part about this year, though is Apple released the iPhone earlier than usual. That means even more of a wait until we start seeing 'leaks' and guesses at what the new iPod's will be.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but this was found in March... http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/iphone-os-3-0-firmware-unearths-new-iphones-and-new-ipod-touches/

I think they will either:

a) Keep the "same sleek design"

OR

b) Realize that they made the "mistake" (in some people's eyes) to keep the same design, and try to make the iPod Touch look different.

In my opinion the looks that they decided to stick with are the trademark iPhone/iPod Touch looks. Like when someone says iPod touch, or iPhone, I automatically bring those images to mind, it wouldn't be the same if they were to change it drastically.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but this was found in March... http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/iphone-os-3-0-firmware-unearths-new-iphones-and-new-ipod-touches/

My thread states that the wireless chip in the touch will support 802.11n, not that there will be new touches.

Ummm, what is that supposed to prove? I just read it (and I remember seeing it before). Did I miss something? But anyways, that just seems to prove more of what we were saying,,,

Has anyone seen my thread (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202916) on a ipod hint too?

Has anyone seen my thread (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202916) on a ipod hint too?

I did yes, and photoshop could be a big sell point for some companies. Trying to get as much as they can from rumours of a new touch.

that doean't necessarily prove anything

I mean who knows, but it is not likely to be real.

No, I don't see a huge redesign in the works. Actually, I just see more features. Camera, maybe. Mic, hopefull, but doubtful. Faster proccesor and more RAM, yes.

No, I don't see a huge redesign in the works. Actually, I just see more features. Camera, maybe. Mic, hopefull, but doubtful. Faster proccesor and more RAM, yes.

Personally, I could care less about a re-design. As long as it has the performance (and other) upgrades.

Personally, I could care less about a re-design. As long as it has the performance (and other) upgrades.

Yep, right there with you on that. The design is classic. Apple really did well on the iPhone (and iPod touch's) design. But, atleast on the iPod touch, they left out a lot of the features that should be there.

I agree with that. It was smart for apple to make a popular device that people will buy, and then slowly upgrade to what their iPhone has because they know the features of the phone will sell well . . . . Good profit for apple

not really good for us though

No, Apple is really a genius company. It is very smart for them to milk their products for as long as they can, upgrading slowly, to keep their expenses down, but profits up. And their marketing is very good too. Anyone else remember when they released first gen iPhone, and the commercials. I know 5-year olds who wanted one of the iPhones. It was very smart.

I don't think I saw any of those.

You didn't see the first gen iPhone commercials???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu7_hwVNhrk

There is one. You didn't see any of those?

Thanks lol.

I'm not too sure if they aired any of them in Canada, though I never looked on the net either, I could be wrong though.

Well, here in the States, they had so many, it was ridiculous. And annoying.

I'm sure it would have been. lol

Especially if you wanted one..?

*crosses fingers*
Camera...Cameraaa....Camerraaaaa

Yeah, and then you google it, and you pee in your pants when you see the price.

Yeah, and then you google it, and you pee in your pants when you see the price.

Well they've been pretty consistent with the price.
$220 - $250 isn't that bad.
Plus they usually release Touches around my birthday. ;]

No, I mean the first gen iPhone. But yeah, they release touches around my birthday, as well. It's great.

^ Same. But, mine is a month after the release of the touches (October). I honestly believe they will give us a camera, faster speed, and an improved graphics card.

I just hope whenever it is released that it will be easy to jailbreak. If this one does include a camera I will get it for sure

I will totally get it

Cant wait...

I hope its not called iPod touch 3S

I got this from another thread but imagine:

The new and improved iPod Touch, now known as the iTouch xD

lol... I so wish apple would not make a new iPod touch. Reason: I am poor. Lol!

I'm guessing the touch will have a 2.0 MP camera. They have to make it worse than the iPhone somehow and the iPod is pretty thin to fit a larger sensor. I might skip this the 3G iPod touch though. I'm tired of upgrading my iPod touch every year to get features that were always on the iPhone. It's becoming more expensive than owning an actual iPhone which will probably be my next phone.

And we're at the front page... :p

I hope for a faster processor and a bit more RAM.
And hopefully a few slick design-addons. :)

The new ipod with Camera, I just don't buy it. Apple has never been that nice, ever. Camera, imo, is going to be reserved for the iphone. The new feature is most likely Ipod with magnetometer, ie. digital compass.

Uhh...

I would *love* if it came with VoiceOver and maybe MagnetoMeter instead of a camera. :D

YOU'RE KIDDING ME!
i JUST came on the f*&%ing computer to post this!
i was looking around in iFile, i even took a f'ing screenshot!
found it yesterday!

oh well. too late!

damnit i wanted to be front paged, lol.
excited none-the-less.
f-f-f!

Since they probably want something big that would make people want to get the new iPod, they might add in a camera or the magnetometer.

But knowing Apple, you can expect it to be much worse than the iPhone's.

If it came with a camera, i'd expect my iPod to be able to connect to my phone via bluetooth so I could email or mms the pictures to people.

I can already get on the internet with my iPod using WMWifiRouter from my phone so I could email people, but connection via BT would be cool. I'd actually have a use for it then

If Apple still allowed home activations via iTunes, I'm sure we would all have a hacktivated iPhone right now :) Or at least I would.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure that a new iPod touch will be released with updated graphics and RAM etc. etc. As for the camera, I'm sure it won't be as good as the iPhone 3G S. But Apple has to do something with either the price or memory as the 3G S is now available in 32GB.

P.S. Has anyone ever wondered why the iPod touch is available only in black while the iPhone has had the choice of black or white for two years? Just a thought..

This is probably the 7 inch iPod touch they are going to make wich has lepoard installed on it too. I saw some screenshots of it and they say they are testing the prototypes now.

This probably means that the iPhone 3GS has Wireless-N as well and it will be actvated with a software update.

This is probably the 7 inch iPod touch they are going to make wich has lepoard installed on it too. I saw some screenshots of it and they say they are testing the prototypes now.

I'm surprised at how little you know about Apple and their iPod touch.

It wouldn't even be an iPod touch if it was 7 inches.
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P.S. Has anyone ever wondered why the iPod touch is available only in black while the iPhone has had the choice of black or white for two years? Just a thought..

maybe it's because you can't even change the color of the iPod's back?

Well, people, Im thinking camera and mic (and magnetometer). The camera and the mic would both increase app store sales. For the camera, they could use that for a really easy, simple add campaign. But the mic may be in the form of Apple headphones, which it is shipped with.

I want to hear Tes answer.
I would say this.
Bigger RAM. Better CPU. Better speakers. Shoot, possible a camera AF. Mic will come with our ear phones.
That what I think what going to happen.

Did you just ignore the fact that 1,1 and 2,1 are there, and no other firmwares? In fact, why WOULD 1,1 and 2,1 be there if it was referring to bluetooth - bluetooth is new to 3.0. It means nothing, you're just looking for attention.

I want to hear Tes answer.
I would say this.
Bigger RAM. Better CPU. Better speakers. Shoot, possible a camera AF. Mic will come with our ear phones.
That what I think what going to happen.

you want tes to post for what reason...? It's not like he's going to have some secret info that nobody else has.

If I were Apple, I would just include the normal earbuds and make people buy the set with a mic. That would get them a lot more money.

Did you just ignore the fact that 1,1 and 2,1 are there, and no other firmwares? In fact, why WOULD 1,1 and 2,1 be there if it was referring to bluetooth - bluetooth is new to 3.0. It means nothing, you're just looking for attention.

Easy man. You're confusing DOT's with COMMA's.
1.1 up to 3.0 are firmwares.

1,1 and 2,1 are iPod Touch models, what we like to call 1G and 2G. Now we're taking about 3,1 or 3G.

Did you just ignore the fact that 1,1 and 2,1 are there, and no other firmwares? In fact, why WOULD 1,1 and 2,1 be there if it was referring to bluetooth - bluetooth is new to 3.0. It means nothing, you're just looking for attention.

I would think it was apple testing it on the 2G 2.2.1 They do have to start from somewhere, and besides the chip doesn't magically appear just because of software, it is always there, right from production.

Well, it is almost 'tie the season for iPod rumors. They just get more abundant, people.

Hasn't this info been out for some time now?

Hasn't this info been out for some time now?

About the new touch, yes.
About it having wireless-N capabilities. Not so common information.

You know, I can see Wireless-N being real. After all, the iTunes.app just got support for video downloads, I believe. What better way to take advantage of it than Wireless-N?

You know, I can see Wireless-N being real. After all, the iTunes.app just got support for video downloads, I believe. What better way to take advantage of it than Wireless-N?

That would be great!

You never know though, they might charge for it like they did the Bluetooth, or the wireless-N on that other Mac product.

Which would suck alot!

Yep. And I am going to get this next release. I am selling my 1st gen in 2-4 weeks. So this one had better be pretty nice. But anyways, even if it doesn't get anything but the upgraded guts of the 3GS, it'll be worth it, I think. But a camera would be nice.

I duno if you guys read the link posted in the start of this thread, but Broadcom actually states that the BCM4329 utilizes a dual-band wireless-N function that takes advantage of both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz frequencies. This brings much more speed potential to this chip. I have a dual band set-up in my house and the 5 Ghz band opperates at 270 Mbps by itself, while the 2.4 Ghz band connects at 130 Mbps!!! It is possible to bridge these connections with more than one wireless receiver, but i dont see simultaneos connections happening on the iPod Touch. This does require a special wireless router to take advantage of the 5 Ghz frequency, but the bump in speed should be substantial.

Heck, I just hate how Apple inches towards new features. It is soooo annoying. But, since the new iPod is 3.1 means that it will prolly have some pretty new features (camera, camera, camera....) just because it isn't iPod touch 2.2. But anyways, if they wanted to make it perfect, it'd be Camera, GPS, magnetometer, and ummm... Voice Control, with a built-in mic. That'd be great. And sooo not gonna happen. Oh well :-(

A RADIO TUNER (am + fm) would be SICK.

A RADIO TUNER (am + fm) would be SICK.

And a nice app to go along with it, it would be awesome. But, it's not gonna happen.

My ideal 3G iPod should have:

- Everything 2G has
- 5 Mp camera
- Video camera
- GPS
- Built in mic
- Compass
- Radio tuner

Not greedy am I :D

About the new touch, yes.
About it having wireless-N capabilities. Not so common information.

Yeah I meant the apple devices in x,x format in the sdk :P.

My ideal 3G iPod should have:

- Everything 2G has This is a must. Lol.
- 5 Mp camera Helllll no.
- Video camera Probably not.
- GPS Maybe?
- Built in mic No way.
- Compass Probably
- Radio tuner Doubt it.

Not greedy am I :D

My ideal iPod would be faster and have a better back. Anything else would just be extras I don't need/want.

Hey guys,
If i look at those files in your screenshot then we are definitly not getting a camera. If you open the iPod3,1.boot.script then you can see that it "talks" to a device by downloading and cofiguring a file called BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0015.0016_Olympic_021809_37. 4MHz.hcd as allready mentioned this referrs to the new broadcom The Broadcom BCM4329 (http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329#tab=features-tab). But how can I be so certain? I checked the iPod2,1.boot.script and this one also "talks" to a device and it also downloads and configures a file called BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0153.0155_N72_032609.hcd and this referrs to the Broadcom BCM4325 (http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325#tab=features-tab). So maybe this new iPod Touch will add Wifi n, FM Tuner and bluetooth depending on what apple is willing to give us, only one thing is making me curious have a look at the ending of the file the new iPod talk to: Olympic_021809_37.4MHz why 4MHz?

I will post now the first couple of lines of these boot.scrips:
iPod3,1.boot.script:
#
# BlueTool iPod3,1 boot script
#
device -D

## Make sure the device is awake and reset
wake on
reset pulse 100

## Standard HCI Reset
hci reset

## Set the baud rate to match device tree
bcm -B

msleep 200

## Download the config file
bcm -w /etc/bluetool/BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0015.0016_Olympic_021809_37. 4MHz.hcd


iPod2,1.boot.script:
#
# BlueTool iPod2,1 script
#
device -D

## Make sure the device is awake and reset
wake on
reset pulse 100

## Standard HCI Reset
hci reset

## Set the baud rate
bcm -B

msleep 200

## Download the config file
bcm -w /etc/bluetool/BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0153.0155_N72_032609.hcd

SO wait, what does that say (in english...)? Sorry, I don't really get what you are saying about the camera

SO wait, what does that say (in english...)? Sorry, I don't really get what you are saying about the camera
hehe, I was just joking a lttle bit with your wish to get a camera.
Well in english: This new iPod Touch is using the broadcom BCM4329 which might add WiFi n support, bluetooth and FM Tuner

hehe, I was just joking a lttle bit with your wish to get a camera.
Well in english: This new iPod Touch is using the broadcom BCM4329 which might add WiFi n support, bluetooth and FM Tuner

Bluetooth is already there since 2nd Gen. Anyway, that Broadcom page says FM Receiver AND Transmitter so maybe it'll be like a built in iTrip but with a better way to change frequencies. I think Apple has to add FM support about now because several MP3 players with touch screens are getting it. In fact, more and more are getting cameras. Lets hope the iPhone 3GS has turned off Wireless-N and FM right now that will be activated in September along with the release of the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. Also, I will be posting any new feature thought in my thread (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198034) and giving credit.

hehe, I was just joking a lttle bit with your wish to get a camera.
Well in english: This new iPod Touch is using the broadcom BCM4329 which might add WiFi n support, bluetooth and FM Tuner

Ok, cause you just scared me. *shudder*
Bluetooth is already there since 2nd Gen. Anyway, that Broadcom page says FM Receiver AND Transmitter so maybe it'll be like a built in iTrip but with a better way to change frequencies. I think Apple has to add FM support about now because several MP3 players with touch screens are getting it. In fact, more and more are getting cameras. Lets hope the iPhone 3GS has turned off Wireless-N and FM right now that will be activated in September along with the release of the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. Also, I will be posting any new feature thought in my thread (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198034) and giving credit.

Well, FM tuner would be nice. Personally, I will take anything Apple throws over here.

In my opinion we shouldn't expect too much. For example Bluetooth: it has always been there but never enabled, so why all of the sudden should we get FM or Bluetooth or even both? So we might just get Wifi n support. And we should not forget that Apple will not let the iPod Touch reach the "iPhone standart", otherwise we wouldn't need nor buy the iPhone anymore!

Well, I don't think that the touch will ever be up to the iPhone standard. Ever. But, there is room for a lot of improvement. I think that a camera and mic are both somewhat likely, as both would further propel the iPod touch into the gaming market, and help apple gain more App Store profits. I think that Apple might try to 'unite' their product line, so developers don't have to worry about their games sucking in one device, but being amazing on another. Also, on the GPS, I can see Apple and Tom-Tom announcing a partnership for a GPS that connects via BlueTooth to the iPhones and iPod touchs.

your on macrumors ;)

your on macrumors ;)

I saw that lol :)

haha i just found this on my own when i was looking through folders in iphonebrowser, i thought i had discovered it but alas, people are already far ahead of me xD
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off topic: what is MobileWirelessSync.framework? found in system/library/privateframeworks
i think i remember seeing something about it back in the 2.1.1 days but i could be wrong

haha i just found this on my own when i was looking through folders in iphonebrowser, i thought i had discovered it but alas, people are already far ahead of me xD
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i think i remember seeing something about it back in the 2.1.1 days but i could be wrong

You mean this?

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148747

The ipod touch will definitely be getting a much better hardware than the iphone. I am not too very optimistic of a good camera (VGA sucks big time) but I think apple will like to take the touch more towards the gaming side to compete with the likes of PSP. So a better graphic processor, better battery, wifi n is mostly what we are going to see.

Yeah im gonna upgrade at christmas, iv had mine since christmas 2007 so it needs replacing :P

Ok, guys. As your local Sony fanboy, I would like to inform you that the CPU in the iPod touch 2g and iPhone 3GS is already a lot faster than the psp's. I am not sure about the GPU, though.

The Ipod Touch 3G will not come out for at least 3 more months. My Brother workS at Apple company and he said there is no clues that apple will release the new Ipod Touch 3G in at least 3 more months.

The Ipod Touch 3G will not come out for at least 3 more months. My Brother workS at Apple company and he said there is no clues that apple will release the new Ipod Touch 3G in at least 3 more months.

We aren't saying it won't. We are speculating about the features, not the release date. It will probably come out in September like every other iPod touch. You don't have to work at Apple to possess common sense:cool:. But thanks for the info. Keep your brother talking, and post back here. You are the informant. Congrats:)

I just hope that the Ipod Touch will be easy to jailbreak..and I hope it has a camera, that would be AWESOME. I already sold my Ipod Touch 1st Gen..looking forward to the new one

In my opinion we shouldn't expect too much. For example Bluetooth: it has always been there but never enabled, so why all of the sudden should we get FM or Bluetooth or even both? So we might just get Wifi n support. And we should not forget that Apple will not let the iPod Touch reach the "iPhone standart", otherwise we wouldn't need nor buy the iPhone anymore!

Some people just don't understand. Bluetooth. Is. Already. On. The. iPod. Touch. 2nd. Generation.

Some people just don't understand. Bluetooth. Is. Already. On. The. iPod. Touch. 2nd. Generation.

Then tell me: how do i use it?

You update to 3.0 to get Bluetooth activated...

Built-in Mic
Faster Processor
More RAM
Better battery life

If a new iPod touch comes out with these features then I would be extremely happy.

So a new ipod touch might have wireless N, but the new iPhone doesnt? wtf? bastards.
and an fm transmitter?
man that really pisses me off....

So a new ipod touch might have wireless N, but the new iPhone doesnt? wtf? bastards.
and an fm transmitter?
man that really pisses me off....

They both will probably have the hardware, just doesn't mean it'll be available. (like the 2G bluetooth)

802.11n?

FFFFFFF-
And I thought I was happy with the features of the 2G. It's a tough upgrade.. I do love my jailbreak a whole lot, after all.

(Yes, I'm aware the 3G hasn't been announced yet.)

They both will probably have the hardware, just doesn't mean it'll be available. (like the 2G bluetooth)

hasnt the 3GS already been taken apart?
so they would know if it already has the chip in there :S

hasnt the 3GS already been taken apart?
so they would know if it already has the chip in there :S

I haven't found anything on the 3G[S] Wifi Chip
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I was just curious if the iPhone 3G[S] had WirelessN, but no such luck:

"iSuppli’s teardown also reveals that Apple is using the same BCM4325 combination Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip from Broadcom used in the second-generation iPod touch"

Found on http://myi.gr/2009/06/16-gb-iphone-3gs-teardown-reveals-178-96-parts-and-manufacturing-cost/

So, that means no WirelessN for the 3G[S]

So, are you pretty sure of the Wireless N? Because if the iPhone 3GS doesn't have it, I do doubt that the newest iPod will (at least unlocked, and functional). Anyone agree?

So, are you pretty sure of the Wireless N? Because if the iPhone 3GS doesn't have it, I do doubt that the newest iPod will (at least unlocked, and functional). Anyone agree?

I wouldn't say probably till the next iPod Touch update, but who knows.

If the new iPod Touch has 3.0 mp camera and video recording I will pick one up and wait for the refreshed iPhone next year. This could be the year of the iPod :)

If the new iPod Touch has 3.0 mp camera and video recording I will pick one up and wait for the refreshed iPhone next year. This could be the year of the iPod :)

The year of the iPod??? Hasn't that been pretty much every consecutive year since 2004 as far as media players go?;)

The year of the iPod??? Hasn't that been pretty much every consecutive year since 2004 as far as media players go?;)

Amen.
But I would also like a mic. Then again, the ipod touch would just become an iphone without the phone plans...

If you want phone-like features, is it not logical to buy the iPhone rather than the iPod?
Steve Jobs described the touch as "iPhone on training wheels". Apple are always going to draw a distinct line between the iPhone and the iPod, as they draw the line with the said devices' pricing.

I wouldn't doubt that the rumour MAY be true, but by its very nature a rumour does not mean truth (but without speculation, the whole technology scene would be pretty bland, so I can vouch for some hope).

But remember not to get your hopes up TOO high. I wouldn't be surprised if the new iPods had cameras, it seems like a logical enough step forward.

I hope the new device is relatively cheap, cause i want one now even more.

Especially if it is going to be improved upon.

:)

will it have a camera on it

You know, the timing makes sense. The largest group of people who were going to get the 3GS just bought it, so releasing an iPod Touch with most of those features wont really hit them that hard in the iPhone business.

Probably ;)