theLorax
09-16-2009, 12:52 AM
This is an interesting article. Obviously by an apple fanboy, but the technical information is correct, and well researched.

This is not meant to be a trolling post. I'm interested in the Zune myself, but also hearing the pros and cons.

Most of what it says might be too technical for the younger people on this forum though.


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/14/from_oled_to_tegra_five_myths_of_the_zune_hd.html&page=1

AngelMayLaugh
09-16-2009, 07:51 AM
"The Tegra is built by NVIDIA, leaving Zune fans to suggest that it delivers industry leading, desktop-gaming type graphics that far exceed the capabilities of industry-standard mobile graphics."

Who the fuck would think that.

wat.
09-16-2009, 10:36 AM
It's not even that blatant in terms of fanboyism. The guy is just writing the facts. There's no reason he WOULDN'T be disappointed.

Basically, the marketing on the Zune HD is all BS, and this guy is pointing it out.

It's no surprise though - the Zune has be a failure since it came out. Of course MS's marketing on the latest is going to be filled with lies.

zDSpider
09-16-2009, 12:20 PM
Sorry, did I just read that the Zune HD witll come with "IE 6, which dates back to 2001" ? That's the IE from Windows XP. Many, many people complained about the holes in that browser. What the hell is Microsoft thinking ??? Wow. Just... WOW.

Matt24
09-16-2009, 12:24 PM
Microsoft never said that the Zune HD displayed HDTV quality. They said it outputed HD. They didnt lie, and its coming with a custom mobile IE its not actually IE 6. IE 6 was meant for computers this is a new mobile IE.

rafarquhar
09-16-2009, 12:31 PM
Sorry, did I just read that the Zune HD witll come with "IE 6, which dates back to 2001" ? That's the IE from Windows XP. Many, many people complained about the holes in that browser. What the hell is Microsoft thinking ??? Wow. Just... WOW.

Sorry, are you joking?
Did you seriously just compare a mobile browser to a desktop browser?
Also, security holes? On a mobile browser? I'm shaking in my boots.

bloodyfart
09-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Sorry, did I just read that the Zune HD witll come with "IE 6, which dates back to 2001" ? That's the IE from Windows XP. Many, many people complained about the holes in that browser. What the hell is Microsoft thinking ??? Wow. Just... WOW.

Oh. You BEST be trollin.

AngelMayLaugh
09-16-2009, 01:06 PM
It's not even that blatant in terms of fanboyism. The guy is just writing the facts. There's no reason he WOULDN'T be disappointed.

Basically, the marketing on the Zune HD is all BS, and this guy is pointing it out.

It's no surprise though - the Zune has be a failure since it came out. Of course MS's marketing on the latest is going to be filled with lies.

2 Million sold is pretty respectable when ipod dominates the market.

wat.
09-16-2009, 02:51 PM
2 Million sold is pretty respectable when ipod dominates the market.

Did you see the circle graph of hilarity at the Sept 9th event?

1.1% is an embarrassment.

qaiz
09-17-2009, 01:58 PM
its just a music/video player.....just like the ipod......end of.

Teslanaut
09-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Oh hey, someone left this here. http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243145

ryanangus
09-18-2009, 04:42 PM
Sorry, did I just read that the Zune HD witll come with "IE 6, which dates back to 2001" ? That's the IE from Windows XP. Many, many people complained about the holes in that browser. What the hell is Microsoft thinking ??? Wow. Just... WOW.
It's a browser based on Mobile IE 6 which was first shown at CES 2009. It's completely seperate to the desktop versions of IE :)

UltimateiHacker94
09-18-2009, 04:52 PM
Sorry, did I just read that the Zune HD witll come with "IE 6, which dates back to 2001" ? That's the IE from Windows XP. Many, many people complained about the holes in that browser. What the hell is Microsoft thinking ??? Wow. Just... WOW.

this :p

ryanangus
09-18-2009, 04:54 PM
It's not IE6 from 8 years ago. It's Mobile IE6 from 8 months ago.

UltimateiHacker94
09-18-2009, 04:55 PM
It's not IE6 from 8 years ago. It's Mobile IE6 from 8 months ago.

lol sorry didn't see the post you put above mines :p

sprint_user
09-18-2009, 04:55 PM
"The Tegra is built by NVIDIA, leaving Zune fans to suggest that it delivers industry leading, desktop-gaming type graphics that far exceed the capabilities of industry-standard mobile graphics."

Who the fuck would think that.

I agree, only a tech dumbass would think, "Hey! NVIDIA made a processor for the Zune HD! Halo 3 here I come!"

UltimateiHacker94
09-18-2009, 04:58 PM
I agree, only a tech dumbass would think, "Hey! NVIDIA made a processor for the Zune HD! Halo 3 here I come!"

lol that made me laugh

N130
09-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting that at all, just put Microsoft on blast lol.

ilikeguitar90
09-20-2009, 01:12 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting that at all, just put Microsoft on blast lol.

Yeah, who would have thought that APPLEinsider would be against the zune hd? Big shock to me!

:p

N130
09-20-2009, 01:15 PM
Yeah, who would have thought that APPLEinsider would be against the zune hd? Big shock to me!

:p

I didn't mean it like that lol, but I didn't think the Zune HD had that much cons.

AngelMayLaugh
09-20-2009, 08:23 PM
I didn't mean it like that lol, but I didn't think the Zune HD had that much cons.

again. APPLEinsider. Do you think MICROSOFTwhatever would be raving about the latest imac?

N130
09-20-2009, 08:35 PM
again. APPLEinsider. Do you think MICROSOFTwhatever would be raving about the latest imac?

I know that but I was still surprised about the OLED screen only being good in the dark and the Tegra processor being a little outdated, I know its there intent to bash a lot of non-Apple companies but I was still a little surprised.

theLorax
09-21-2009, 07:11 PM
whats up with the tegra processor supposed to be fast and bleeding edge, yet apps take 10-15 seconds to load up?

Teslanaut
09-21-2009, 07:13 PM
whats up with the tegra processor supposed to be fast and bleeding edge, yet apps take 10-15 seconds to load up?

Tegra is not a CPU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra

theLorax
09-21-2009, 09:59 PM
Tegra is not a CPU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra

my bad, i had a brain fart there.

still, isnt the zune CPU better than the one in the 3g touch?

i would expect at least equal app loading and web surfing times to the 3G touch, as it came out at the same time.

Coolaaron88
09-22-2009, 02:21 PM
my bad, i had a brain fart there.

still, isnt the zune CPU better than the one in the 3g touch?

i would expect at least equal app loading and web surfing times to the 3G touch, as it came out at the same time.

As far as that is concerned, firmware updates with fix the hardware's ability to work better with the software, ie faster browser and app start up times. People talk about OLED being a negative against the Zune, hasn't seemed to stop people from talking about the inclusion of OLED screens in future iPod products.

AngelMayLaugh
09-22-2009, 09:47 PM
As far as that is concerned, firmware updates with fix the hardware's ability to work better with the software, ie faster browser and app start up times. People talk about OLED being a negative against the Zune, hasn't seemed to stop people from talking about the inclusion of OLED screens in future iPod products.

It will be revolutionary when the ipod gets an OLED screen.

Coolaaron88
09-23-2009, 01:11 AM
Thats my thing though, people say OLED is horrible in sunlight and that it isnt a good thing. if it isnt a good thing why would people want OLED screens in future apple products? I dont see why.