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AppStore is near...

So Jailbreakers, the clock is ticking. As of today there is less than a month until Apple unveils it's new 2.0 firmware for the iPod touch, and in the process releases Appstore with it...

So on June Ninth, which of you will upgrade to 2.0 and get appstore? Do you think that applications by companies that you have to pay for are better than applications made by people other than companies ( I.E. people who makes Apps for installer etc.)?

You Decide!

Feel free to share all your thoughts in this thread...

Update: Less than 11 days until the 2.0 Firmware is released!

Update-2: 7 days until the release! 6/2/08

Probably both. Nullriver Soft might make an Installer for 2.0. There might be less Applications, but that's what I'm going for.

I prefer AppStore because there will be better quality Apps since they actually have the perfect tools for the Device.

Finally. No more Crashing + Maintenance etc.

i will definitely stay with the jailbreak

the applications made by the jailbreaking community have been awesome and just because some companies will make better, glitchfree versions i would never pay for applications that are made just as well by nice people that don't care about profits or mercantalism.

so i will continue supporting the jailbreak community and i will not support apple and their "official" applications:mad:

Yeah! Another poll on the same topic!

Do you think that applications by companies that you have to pay for are better than applications made by average people?

No offense, but the people who make these jailbroken applications for us aren't average. Yeah, they don't work for these companies, but they can program well, they do it for us anyway, and they do it for free. Plus, some of the jailbroken apps are really getting better quality-wise.

I, personally, will not buy from the appstore because they won't be selling any emulators.

EDIT: I also know that anything available in the appstore will eventually become free through future hacks.

Yeah! Another poll on the same topic!

Thank you, for your excessive use of sarcasm! I hope you enjoy that fact that I cant find it amusing!

No offense, but the people who make these jailbroken applications for us aren't average. Yeah, they don't work for these companies, but they can program well, they do it for us anyway, and they do it for free. Plus, some of the jailbroken apps are really getting better quality-wise.

I, personally, will not buy from the appstore because they won't be selling any emulators.

EDIT: I also know that anything available in the appstore will eventually become free through future hacks.

Yeah, I don't mean Average as normal, I just mean average, like average people making amazing apps!

Who says it's June 9th? Or are you speculating because of WWDC? The date is not official, so don't come to conclusions.

Who says it's June 9th? Or are you speculating because of WWDC? The date is not official, so don't come to conclusions.

I am speculating because of the WWDC. I am not jumping to conclusions about it, but I do think that they MIGHT release/unveil 2.0 at the WWDC. I may be wrong though.
:(

Who says it's June 9th? Or are you speculating because of WWDC? The date is not official, so don't come to conclusions.

Lots of people are speculating and it could be true. WWDC is a major Apple event. Most are speculating the 3G iPhone. And what do you need to use 3G on the iPhone? Firmware. Which firmware has it? 2.0.

Depending on what the SDK + Appstore has to offer, I will probably stay with the jailbreak. However, maintenance, as Teslanaut said, is time consuming.

I think the best thing that could happen (in my opinion) is if all the average people app makers make their App Store apps free, it would be appreciated by everyone who owns an iPhone/iPod touch.

2.0 and AppStore, no doubt about it. To be quite honest, the only apps I use from the jailbreaking community is MobileChat and MxTube, all others I can easily do without. AOL has shown that they're making AIM for the iPhone/iPod touch, so MobileChat is replaced. As far as MxTube, I'll survive without it :)

I don't want to belittle the efforts of the unofficial app community, but with the AppStore, there's the potential for some really cool stuff. Most dev's won't work on an unsanctioned platform like the jailbroken devices, since they are unstable*, unsupported, and have little chance to bring revenue.

* unstable meaning, you never know if it's going to be broken partially or fully with the next software update, not related to system stability...

Jailbreak is FREE. AppStore is $$$


WAIT! Why can't I have BOTH!?

Jailbreak is FREE. AppStore is $$$


WAIT! Why can't I have BOTH!?

AppStore is not $$$. SOME Apps in the AppStore are $$$.

Jailbreak is the same way. See the people already charging for Apps?

I also know that anything available in the appstore will eventually become free through future hacks.

Unless you crack APPL Encrypted DRM, that's not gonna happen.

The point is the both choices are livin' togheter. In later August you can join both options in the same device. That's it.

i am going with 2.0 and the appstore because i am sooooooo sick of having to restore my ipod everytime installer stops working or when programs dont work. I know that apple will be very strick about there stuff and only let the best of the best apps on the appstore and there will be ateam to approve the apps

I am going to do both, when I can, but I think there is no difference because, as Teslanaut said, people are already charging for apps, so no big difference.

I am going with AppStore suprisingly. I mean, I made my iPod touch look like an iPhone but 2.0 is calling, and I am sure as hell going to answer it.

On another note, i am going to miss most of my Apps. At least I have iBackup so if I downgrade, I can easily get them back!

:D

id go with the app store.

Im guessing quite a few apps will be free of charge and the rest i cant see being too much, unless your buying spore which would prolly be priced at 30 quid.

the smaller apps i cant imagine being that expensive, i bought Pacman for my video ipod for a £5 and would gladly pay that much for other arcade style games. the only apps id buy would be a few games and things i think are useful for Uni/work.

I think alot of the current app community would also move over, a decent app charged at $1.40 sold 100 times would pay off their original joining fee right? then there other apps can be given for free.

wait a minute....................???

i thought u could pwn 2.0 firmware with pwnage????? wouldnt that mean both jb and as?

dont flame me if im wrong

i will definitely stay with the jailbreak

the applications made by the jailbreaking community have been awesome and just because some companies will make better, glitchfree versions i would never pay for applications that are made just as well by nice people that don't care about profits or mercantalism.

so i will continue supporting the jailbreak community and i will not support apple and their "official" applications:mad:


+Thumbs up+

thats the truth.!

For me, I'll wait to make my decision. It all boils down to how my iPod will look. I like the way it looks now, and if I can't make it look the same with 2.0 and app store then I'm not interested. All the apps I'm using now work fine for me, apart from customize 2.0 (gone back to 1.21) and I can't see anything from the App store being better.

The fine young people who are writing these apps for the jailbroken iPod Touch could quite easily write for professional companies. Of that I have no doubt! Okay some of the apps lack a little "finesse", and some crash too. But don't forget we are dealing with a jailbroken firmware and that in itself must cause a few problems. On the whole, I feel the apps developed by these young people are of a very good quality. They should be very proud of themselves!

As for some people charging for their software? Why not? I've "contributed" to some of those people myself. They deserve it, don't they? I mean we're only talking pennies here not big bucks. You wouldn't expect someone to wash your car or windows for nothing would you? Even if you had to pay for the installer apps I would if they were apps I'd use.

I don't care which way I go, as long as my Touch looks as good as it does now :)

wait a minute....................???

i thought u could pwn 2.0 firmware with pwnage????? wouldnt that mean both jb and as?

dont flame me if im wrong

The first 3 Beta's of Firmware 2.0 were easily Jailbroken/Pwned. The following two and possibly the final build still have yet to be jailbroken.

Reasons for appstore:

• No crashing:D
• No refreshing goddamn sources
• Official therefore less buggy
• Much, Much better apps
• Quicker downloads (probably)
• Better interface

Installer is the baseball, Appstore is the bat, and apple about to hit a home run..

yes iam going with 2.0 because havent you relized that most of the people who make the stuff for free now will most likey switch over to appstore and the sdk so that they can go and sell their apps and make a profit and not just give them away for free. Apple is letting people charge money for their apps so that all the jailbreaking and installer will go away and it will be just the apps store

2.0 and AppStore, no doubt about it. To be quite honest, the only apps I use from the jailbreaking community is MobileChat and MxTube, all others I can easily do without. AOL has shown that they're making AIM for the iPhone/iPod touch, so MobileChat is replaced. As far as MxTube, I'll survive without it :)

I don't want to belittle the efforts of the unofficial app community, but with the AppStore, there's the potential for some really cool stuff. Most dev's won't work on an unsanctioned platform like the jailbroken devices, since they are unstable*, unsupported, and have little chance to bring revenue.

* unstable meaning, you never know if it's going to be broken partially or fully with the next software update, not related to system stability...

I would completly miss smbprefs and customize but I wouldnt pay for them

I just wonder how much all of these apps will cost. I mean, imagine having to pay a whole set of money for an app...

I hope Apple keeps it at a low price.

oh thats encouraging to know (no sarcasm)

dude the jailbreak has so much app that i will not be able to give up...so jailbreak

Why not both?

/thread

im going to stick to jailbreaking in the mean time
i have a backup of all apps and themes, so if anything goes wrong, i can add it back on really quickly


Im going to see what apps there are, if there are really good ones, i MIGHT upgrade to 1.2

BUT 1.2 doesnt have themes, and emulators
which disappoint me
I live off themes and emulators and things that make the people around me go "WOW"
2.0 wont have any of those themes (might not) and definitely wont have emulators

I also love customize!
customize your very own iPod to your standards

For me, jailbreaking has many many apps u can get for FREE
while AppStore will have apps that u have to pay :mad:

why do u want to pay?
id rather give them free!!!!

its like paying for music

where would u get it from? iTunes or Limewire?

unless all developers make their apps free (which is never going to happen) id use appstore

im going to stick to jailbreaking in the mean time
i have a backup of all apps and themes, so if anything goes wrong, i can add it back on really quickly


Im going to see what apps there are, if there are really good ones, i MIGHT upgrade to 1.2

BUT 1.2 doesnt have themes, and emulators
which disappoint me
I live off themes and emulators and things that make the people around me go "WOW"
2.0 wont have any of those themes (might not) and definitely wont have emulators

I also love customize!
customize your very own iPod to your standards

For me, jailbreaking has many many apps u can get for FREE
while AppStore will have apps that u have to pay :mad:

why do u want to pay?
id rather give them free!!!!

its like paying for music

where would u get it from? iTunes or Limewire?

unless all developers make their apps free (which is never going to happen) id use appstore
http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=153212

I'll definitely do both.

I'll do both if its possible and don't mind paying for things have the best of both

http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=153212

ok, i download off my iPod :p

which is still better than iTunes

Im going with app store

Wow! Already 94 voters. But most are saying that they are trying 2.0 and then deciding after

Wow! Already 94 voters. But most are saying that they are trying 2.0 and then deciding after

yep one of them lot is me :D

i never jailbroke my iPod but i do have a friend who did. installer seems nice, but im going with appstore cuz i trust Apple more than i trust random developers. plus i've already gone thru 2 iPod touches that had problems (first one the sleep/power button malfunctioned, the 2nd the backlight died) so it's kind of a good thing that i didnt jailbreak.

i never jailbroke my iPod but i do have a friend who did. installer seems nice, but im going with appstore cuz i trust Apple more than i trust random developers. plus i've already gone thru 2 iPod touches that had problems (first one the sleep/power button malfunctioned, the 2nd the backlight died) so it's kind of a good thing that i didnt jailbreak.

u must be joking, why havent u jailbroken yet? if anything goes wrong, a quick restore would do :D

AppStore is not $$$. SOME Apps in the AppStore are $$$. app store is $$$ remember the "nominal fee"?:rolleyes:

Why do Ipod touch users have to pay for everything that iphone users get for free? We all payed $300 or more for an expensive gadget and we still have to pay to get a firmware update of something that could have already been there. plus new ipods get 2.0 and Jan. soft. upgrade for no more than we paid.:mad::mad::mad:

in my opinion if we can get app store free like we got 1.1.4 iphone apps (:D) i will use it. otherwise im sticking to jb

u must be joking, why havent u jailbroken yet? if anything goes wrong, a quick restore would do :D I bet apple has a file that can tell how many times you have restored or jailbroken

ill stay with the jailbreak. because when we jailbreak it will allow us to use either the app store or installer. (hopefully) but then again, anything avaiable on the app store will come to installer. i, personaly, think apple got the app store idea from the JailBreak community. damn jobs, stealing nullrivers ideas!!!

both for me ^^

I bet apple has a file that can tell how many times you have restored or jailbroken

umm probably not, if u restore the iPod, without jailbreak, what ur saying is when u restore it, they will say u jailbroken it! coz u restored it

and why would apple be spying on our iPods?:confused:

app store is $$$ remember the "nominal fee"?:rolleyes:

Why do Ipod touch users have to pay for everything that iphone users get for free? We all payed $300 or more for an expensive gadget and we still have to pay to get a firmware update of something that could have already been there. plus new ipods get 2.0 and Jan. soft. upgrade for no more than we paid.:mad::mad::mad:

in my opinion if we can get app store free like we got 1.1.4 iphone apps (:D) i will use it. otherwise im sticking to jb




We have to pay money because it is fair to iphone users that pay like 50 bucks a month for a phone bill so apple will get us ipod touch users in other ways

hey peeps, here's an interestingly creepy idea! Apple has been puttingnout all of these "beta" versions of the 2.0 firmware which seems innocent enough but I can't help but wonder; Why? If apple so hates the jailbreaking community (which they do; if you've seen the threads on going to an apple store with a hacked iPod, you'd know) wouldn't they make one final version of the firm instead of launching all of those "betas" to maybe teach all of those jailbreakers about the new firmware?

Here my thoughts go in two directions:

1, maybe apple is trying to figure out how we hack the firmware to make the final version "hack proof" (not likely to happen) or is it a little more sinister plot to...

2, develop a system of tracking the serial numbers of the iPods/iPhones and detect peculiar activity and maybe make the firmware "unpwnable" so that when you try to pwn your iPod gives a signal so that apple can either know what you're doing or (even better) deactivate your iPod so that you can only get it to work again at an apple store or something.

Now I can assure you that these thoughts have absolutely no concrete basis on fact. They are just thoughts.

Now I bet that most of you are probably going "what?! That's proposterous! How could you even think that! There's no way apple could achieve that!" well think about this; remember when the official iPhone-dev team website went down on March 28? How it said that they sold their IP to someone else? Most people believed this to be one big aprilfools day joke, especially when it came back up a few days later. Well what if, by a crazy stretch of the imagination apple was the company who bought the IP and made the dev team sign a contract to work for them. So if the whole proccess is monitored by apple, they would know just about everything about jailbreak and pwnage from the first post to the last! Hell they'd have enough info to make an un-jailbreakable/pwnable firmware and more!

Impossible? I think not! We know that apple has very vast resources!

And if you're still sitting there saying so what? They can't spy on my iPod! That's illegal!

Well let me tell you; if apple wants to, they can whip up a fancy 20 page long "terms of agreement" that you need to agree to before you can install the firm and in that mess they can write in one or two sentences about monitoring your iPod. I bet you all know that no one reads those agreements.

Also the way of spying is not that difficult! Have you ever seen a window pop-up in iTunes when when you connect your ipod saying "your iPod contains valuble diagnostic information, would you like to send it to apple?" now all apple has to do is make it accept automatically and "BAM" your iPod is disabled.

Bottom line is, we think that we know the worst but apparently we have no clue

"APPLE HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES"

I myself will be very careful when I get my firmware update

hey peeps, here's an interestingly creepy idea! Apple has been puttingnout all of these "beta" versions of the 2.0 firmware which seems innocent enough but I can't help but wonder; Why? If apple so hates the jailbreaking community (which they do; if you've seen the threads on going to an apple store with a hacked iPod, you'd know) wouldn't they make one final version of the firm instead of launching all of those "betas" to maybe teach all of those jailbreakers about the new firmware?

Here my thoughts go in two directions:

1, maybe apple is trying to figure out how we hack the firmware to make the final version "hack proof" (not likely to happen) or is it a little more sinister plot to...

2, develop a system of tracking the serial numbers of the iPods/iPhones and detect peculiar activity and maybe make the firmware "unpwnable" so that when you try to pwn your iPod gives a signal so that apple can either know what you're doing or (even better) deactivate your iPod so that you can only get it to work again at an apple store or something.

Now I can assure you that these thoughts have absolutely no concrete basis on fact. They are just thoughts.

Now I bet that most of you are probably going "what?! That's proposterous! How could you even think that! There's no way apple could achieve that!" well think about this; remember when the official iPhone-dev team website went down on March 28? How it said that they sold their IP to someone else? Most people believed this to be one big aprilfools day joke, especially when it came back up a few days later. Well what if, by a crazy stretch of the imagination apple was the company who bought the IP and made the dev team sign a contract to work for them. So if the whole proccess is monitored by apple, they would know just about everything about jailbreak and pwnage from the first post to the last! Hell they'd have enough info to make an un-jailbreakable/pwnable firmware and more!

Impossible? I think not! We know that apple has very vast resources!

And if you're still sitting there saying so what? They can't spy on my iPod! That's illegal!

Well let me tell you; if apple wants to, they can whip up a fancy 20 page long "terms of agreement" that you need to agree to before you can install the firm and in that mess they can write in one or two sentences about monitoring your iPod. I bet you all know that no one reads those agreements.

Also the way of spying is not that difficult! Have you ever seen a window pop-up in iTunes when when you connect your ipod saying "your iPod contains valuble diagnostic information, would you like to send it to apple?" now all apple has to do is make it accept automatically and "BAM" your iPod is disabled.

Bottom line is, we think that we know the worst but apparently we have no clue

"APPLE HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES"

I myself will be very careful when I get my firmware update

dude you read my mind thats what ive been thinking since the 2nd beta came out

Both I say, isn't there like 2 othere threads for this?

hey peeps, here's an interestingly creepy idea! Apple has been puttingnout all of these "beta" versions of the 2.0 firmware which seems innocent enough but I can't help but wonder; Why? If apple so hates the jailbreaking community (which they do; if you've seen the threads on going to an apple store with a hacked iPod, you'd know) wouldn't they make one final version of the firm instead of launching all of those "betas" to maybe teach all of those jailbreakers about the new firmware?

Here my thoughts go in two directions:

1, maybe apple is trying to figure out how we hack the firmware to make the final version "hack proof" (not likely to happen) or is it a little more sinister plot to...

2, develop a system of tracking the serial numbers of the iPods/iPhones and detect peculiar activity and maybe make the firmware "unpwnable" so that when you try to pwn your iPod gives a signal so that apple can either know what you're doing or (even better) deactivate your iPod so that you can only get it to work again at an apple store or something.

Now I can assure you that these thoughts have absolutely no concrete basis on fact. They are just thoughts.

Now I bet that most of you are probably going "what?! That's proposterous! How could you even think that! There's no way apple could achieve that!" well think about this; remember when the official iPhone-dev team website went down on March 28? How it said that they sold their IP to someone else? Most people believed this to be one big aprilfools day joke, especially when it came back up a few days later. Well what if, by a crazy stretch of the imagination apple was the company who bought the IP and made the dev team sign a contract to work for them. So if the whole proccess is monitored by apple, they would know just about everything about jailbreak and pwnage from the first post to the last! Hell they'd have enough info to make an un-jailbreakable/pwnable firmware and more!

Impossible? I think not! We know that apple has very vast resources!

And if you're still sitting there saying so what? They can't spy on my iPod! That's illegal!

Well let me tell you; if apple wants to, they can whip up a fancy 20 page long "terms of agreement" that you need to agree to before you can install the firm and in that mess they can write in one or two sentences about monitoring your iPod. I bet you all know that no one reads those agreements.

Also the way of spying is not that difficult! Have you ever seen a window pop-up in iTunes when when you connect your ipod saying "your iPod contains valuble diagnostic information, would you like to send it to apple?" now all apple has to do is make it accept automatically and "BAM" your iPod is disabled.

Bottom line is, we think that we know the worst but apparently we have no clue

"APPLE HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES"

I myself will be very careful when I get my firmware update

You are right they have multiple ways of tracking you. I really wont be suprissed if there is some kind of terms of agreement wasnt there one for the january one. After the january update i started to not only hear about more and more iphones getting bricked i also started to hear about ipods getting bricked. So 2.0 might have the same agreement but this time they are going to step it up a bit. I said this in another thread JUST because they said they arent going to crack down on this stuff and not get involved doesnt mean that they are going to go by it. How much would apple love to brick your ipod/iphone so you have to buy a new one. It just means they get more money and on top of it the word would get out that the ipods were breaking after people jailbroke them. or they could just put in some kind of inpassible block that the dev team cant over come and installer and jailbreaking as a whole becomes obsalete, and the appstore will dominate.

Apple could care less!

in my case i will stay with jailbreak because the apps in app store will not be free. Second, everytime a new app gets to app store someone can buy it and put it in on installer so there will be the same apps in installer and app store

in my case i will stay with jailbreak because the apps in app store will not be free. Second, everytime a new app gets to app store someone can buy it and put it in on installer so there will be the same apps in installer and app store

How many times does someone have to say this?:

THE PRICE OF THE APPS IN THE APPSTORE ARE DETERMINED BY THE DEVELOPER.

Also, what makes you think it'll be so easy to rip the apps and put them on the AppStore?

This is one reason why I'm starting to hate Piracy. Most of the Apps won't be more than $5. Is that so much to pay for?

yea ima run both at the same time

Cool, let us know when you crack 2.0!

Cool, let us know when you crack 2.0!

In my opinion, 2.0 will be cracked, and should be cracked. When it is, you will have the best of both worlds.

Well you are the expert on this!

Cool, let us know when you crack 2.0!

from engadget
iPhone Dev Team jailbreaks firmware 2.0... before it's out
by Joshua Topolsky, posted Mar 11th 2008 at 11:35PM


This is just getting silly, don't you think? The iPhone Dev Team has once again proven their totally gnarly talents by freeing up the latest firmware before it's even the latest firmware. Apple, here's our suggestion -- just let people do what they want with your devices, since they're clearly going to do it anyway. That way, instead of making enemies, you're making lifelong buddies. Reasonable, right? Steve, give us a call, we're more than happy to riff on some ideas for playing nice with the end-user.

Update: Dev chat room chatter claims that the 2.0 is now fully unlocked as well.

Well you are the expert on this!

I beg to differ.

from engadget


As I said.

I think I said this in some other thread.. But I'm just going to get a 3G iPhone and run 2.0+ on it, keep 1.1.3 JB on the iPot.

I think I said this in some other thread.. But I'm just going to get a 3G iPhone and run 2.0+ on it, keep 1.1.3 JB on the iPot.

lol! obviously you dont know the rules that u CANT do that.

lol! obviously you dont know the rules that u CANT do that.

And why is it he cannot do that? Unless that isn't one of the choices for the Poll :P

i will definitely stay with the jailbreak

the applications made by the jailbreaking community have been awesome and just because some companies will make better, glitchfree versions i would never pay for applications that are made just as well by nice people that don't care about profits or mercantalism.

so i will continue supporting the jailbreak community and i will not support apple and their "official" applications:mad:

amen .

hey peeps, here's an interestingly creepy idea! Apple has been puttingnout all of these "beta" versions of the 2.0 firmware which seems innocent enough but I can't help but wonder; Why? If apple so hates the jailbreaking community (which they do; if you've seen the threads on going to an apple store with a hacked iPod, you'd know) wouldn't they make one final version of the firm instead of launching all of those "betas" to maybe teach all of those jailbreakers about the new firmware?

Here my thoughts go in two directions:

1, maybe apple is trying to figure out how we hack the firmware to make the final version "hack proof" (not likely to happen) or is it a little more sinister plot to...

2, develop a system of tracking the serial numbers of the iPods/iPhones and detect peculiar activity and maybe make the firmware "unpwnable" so that when you try to pwn your iPod gives a signal so that apple can either know what you're doing or (even better) deactivate your iPod so that you can only get it to work again at an apple store or something.

Now I can assure you that these thoughts have absolutely no concrete basis on fact. They are just thoughts.

Now I bet that most of you are probably going "what?! That's proposterous! How could you even think that! There's no way apple could achieve that!" well think about this; remember when the official iPhone-dev team website went down on March 28? How it said that they sold their IP to someone else? Most people believed this to be one big aprilfools day joke, especially when it came back up a few days later. Well what if, by a crazy stretch of the imagination apple was the company who bought the IP and made the dev team sign a contract to work for them. So if the whole proccess is monitored by apple, they would know just about everything about jailbreak and pwnage from the first post to the last! Hell they'd have enough info to make an un-jailbreakable/pwnable firmware and more!

Impossible? I think not! We know that apple has very vast resources!

And if you're still sitting there saying so what? They can't spy on my iPod! That's illegal!

Well let me tell you; if apple wants to, they can whip up a fancy 20 page long "terms of agreement" that you need to agree to before you can install the firm and in that mess they can write in one or two sentences about monitoring your iPod. I bet you all know that no one reads those agreements.

Also the way of spying is not that difficult! Have you ever seen a window pop-up in iTunes when when you connect your ipod saying "your iPod contains valuble diagnostic information, would you like to send it to apple?" now all apple has to do is make it accept automatically and "BAM" your iPod is disabled.

Bottom line is, we think that we know the worst but apparently we have no clue

"APPLE HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES"

I myself will be very careful when I get my firmware update
ya, if we update we could be stuck on 2.0 no!!! and btw they didn't release the official version becuase they are getting the appstore ready, by ready i mean filling it up with apps so you can start downloading right after you update.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=iH7Xq9DEc6w

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Trying to get banned? Why would you post that?

And why is it he cannot do that? Unless that isn't one of the choices for the Poll :P

because its a 1.1.3 jailbreak. the 2.0 uses different framworks

because its a 1.1.3 jailbreak. the 2.0 uses different framworks

Did you not read what he said?

He will Have 2.0 with an iPhone

And then have 1.1.3 with his iPod Touch :)

um I would say both. I don't care if they havent owned the last 2.

1. It will be possible no matter what it just may take a bit longer
2. Maybe they have found a way in but not releasing it untill final release because maybe somehow apple will figure out how they got in?

I'm going to stay with the jailbreak beacuse if you are trying to fight the man why put money in his pocket? Loyal to the jailbreaking community!
And plus i spent $300 on an ipod touch, i'm not willing to spend any more money!

I'm going to stay with the jailbreak beacuse if you are trying to fight the man why put money in his pocket? Loyal to the jailbreaking community!
And plus i spent $300 on an ipod touch, i'm not willing to spend any more money!

Well, it's thanks to The Man that you have your iPod Touch :rolleyes:

It's thanks to The Man that we have National Security. :rolleyes:

OH my bad lol

appstore

Nah I'm going to stick with Jailbreak. I mean, they've been jailbreaking since what, 1.02? Sooner or later they're going to release an Installer and apps capable of 2.0... I remember reading a thread maybe a month ago that said something about the Dev/Dav ( i don't remember the name) team already hacking a BETA of the 2.0... Plus, if I spent $300 dollars on my iPod and can get games and emulators and all that other stuff for free, why would I want to pay for it? Yeah, there will probably be better apps seeing as how EA and SEGA and people have worked on them, but I'm sure someone who makes apps for Jailbreak will buy those apps, hack them, then distribute them over the Nullriver installer... so JAILBREAK FTW

I see iPod Touch Fans becoming a cesspool of illegal apps soon.

personally i want both. the app sotre will have much more professional style apps but i highly doubt that there will be apps for themes. and themes is 50% of what i do on my ipod. so hopefully both will be possible. and hopefully 2.0 will be able to be jaibroken because im getting the new iphone when its released

I just can't believe that this debate comes down to the opinions of 13 year olds who have never had to pay for a thing in their lives .... This is the truth:

People do work
They would like to get paid for it

So, these jailbreak dev heros of yours can do the jailbreak thing and work in cafes for the rest of their lives,

OR

They can charge some money, make a living and bring you the things that you want .... you can fuck off with your self righteous "i should have everything for nothing" atitiude.

I just can't believe that this debate comes down to the opinions of 13 year olds who have never had to pay for a thing in their lives .... This is the truth:

People do work
They would like to get paid for it

So, these jailbreak dev heros of yours can do the jailbreak thing and work in cafes for the rest of their lives,

OR

They can charge some money, make a living and bring you the things that you want .... you can fuck off with your self righteous "i should have everything for nothing" atitiude.

Me are 19. Me Payed for Me iMac and me iPod Touch :)

I believe more in the AppStore than I do the Installer.app. :)

i pray to god that nullriver will make a installer for 2.0
or that someone hacks the appstore

i pray to god that nullriver will make a installer for 2.0
or that someone hacks the appstore

I pray that god ignores your request and that when your birthday comes around your age will increase also.

i pray to god that nullriver will make a installer for 2.0
or that someone hacks the appstore

Now, think about your answer to this question ....


Why?

I just can't believe that this debate comes down to the opinions of 13 year olds who have never had to pay for a thing in their lives .... This is the truth:

People do work
They would like to get paid for it

So, these jailbreak dev heros of yours can do the jailbreak thing and work in cafes for the rest of their lives,

OR

They can charge some money, make a living and bring you the things that you want .... you can fuck off with your self righteous "i should have everything for nothing" atitiude.

And yet most of us I'm sure are not 13... Myself, I'm 17 and work at a local sub shop. And just because I think i shouldn't have to pay for something that I can get for free doesn't mean i have the "self-righteous" attitude that I can go fuck myself with... I can say personally that if the DevTeam wants to charge for their apps, I'd pay for them in a blink of an eye; just tell me where to sign and who to make the check out to. But honestly I don't see them doing that right now and I DON'T feel like paying for some apps that Apple thinks would be a good idea when my money is needed somewhere else... I mean I don't know if you've noticed this but for people who drive, there's a little something call $4.03 a gallon! So excuse me for my "i should have everything for nothing" attitude if that's really what you think...

And yet most of us I'm sure are not 13... Myself, I'm 17 and work at a local sub shop. And just because I think i shouldn't have to pay for something that I can get for free doesn't mean i have the "self-righteous" attitude that I can go fuck myself with... I can say personally that if the DevTeam wants to charge for their apps, I'd pay for them in a blink of an eye; just tell me where to sign and who to make the check out to. But honestly I don't see them doing that right now and I DON'T feel like paying for some apps that Apple thinks would be a good idea when my money is needed somewhere else... I mean I don't know if you've noticed this but for people who drive, there's a little something call $4.03 a gallon! So excuse me for my "i should have everything for nothing" attitude if that's really what you think...

i totally agree with you i am by far not 13 (try 22) and yeah if the devteam wants to charge for the apps they make i would be happy to fork out a few bucks but for the bigtime companies that make them professionally, i would not want to pay the main reason being that they have enough cash from their other platforms and things and by forcing the little "private" developers out of the picture they are just being greedy. and like GeneralDuctape has said my cash is needed elsewhere like a buck 50 a liter at the gas station (i live in Canada) plus, i would rather give the money to charity to help out kids (1 dollar a day saves a life). This whole situation reminds me of how i get my music, iTunes or Limewire? i take Limewire any day! of course i need to add album artwork and info but its worth it.

LEAVE THE iPhone TO THE PRIVATE DEVS!

Did you not read what he said?

He will Have 2.0 with an iPhone

And then have 1.1.3 with his iPod Touch :)

Dude, what the Hell is wrong with 99% of the people on this forum? Why do you keep coming back? Thank Darwin for people like you.

yes iam going with 2.0 because havent you relized that most of the people who make the stuff for free now will most likey switch over to appstore and the sdk so that they can go and sell their apps and make a profit and not just give them away for free. Apple is letting people charge money for their apps so that all the jailbreaking and installer will go away and it will be just the apps store

I think eventually this is what it will come to, especially because AppStore does not REQUIRE you to charge for your app. Most people would want their apps to be more visible and available to more people, so the natural direction for them would be to jump over to AppStore.

I think that I will use App Store and Installer...If I can. Can you put both on at the same time or does App Store have to be cracked?:confused. By the way, when is App Store coming to the iPod touch? People say that it is in June but when in June?:confused:

App Store of course. Installer is a piece of sh*t. A friend of mine jailbroke his iPod and his runs slow as hell, takes like 15 seconds for an application to load and he can't even listen to music or get on youtube for more than 5 minutes before the app automatically closes....
I rather pay 20 bucks for some stuff that works than be some cheap a$$ that has some stuff that tears his sh*t up

Well if he was mentally challenged you should have helped him so he could have done it correctly and he wouldn't have all those problems.

Well if he was mentally challenged you should have helped him so he could have done it correctly and he wouldn't have all those problems.

Tsk, Tsk. Anyway, 2.0 is coming out in a few days, and I can't wait to get Spore on it. I love that game!

i have no problem paying for apps ,but will they charge for the 2.0 firmware itself ?it will kind of piss me off if i have to pay for a fw that everyone will get free if they buy a phone or pod new now. also do you think they will have the same custom type apps that will change the boot screen, and customize ,and all that great stuff ?

It's the same with the JSU
People still got it for free. Same I suppose for 2.0

actually no. Apple already announced that they are going to charge existing iPod users for the 2.0 firmware. note how i said iPod and not iPod/iPhone

Holy hell! The ninth? I thought it was suppose to come out late June. Can't wait. I get outta school a day after that too and I might night go to those two pointless days next week. But... Im definatly going with appstore.

hell no im stayin loyal to my jailbreakers
i mean why pay for something thats basically the same thing.
all i know is that it will take the appstore a long time b4 they get even close to as many apps as installer

hell no im stayin loyal to my jailbreakers
i mean why pay for something thats basically the same thing.
all i know is that it will take the appstore a long time b4 they get even close to as many apps as installer

Not necessarily, the SDK IS out, so developers are busy creating apps for the Appstore...

If its me . i dont really have a choice. My country is not supportd by apple. imaen i cant pay for anything from my country. our credit cards dont work with them. So i think i'll support the free of charge jailbreaking community :)

jailbreak all the way baby

Jailbreak takes up too much damn space

Jailbreak takes up too much damn space

Exactly, and it is really laggy and crappy. I have restored my iPod countless times because of it and I am tired of that. I just need something stable.

Agree, that's exactly my point

I dont think i will be jailbreaking my Touch anytime soon. it takes time to jailbreak your device. and if you do something wrong, you have to start all over again.. and if new FW comes out, you have to jailbreak all over again. and that takes time. not to mention, it takes too much space. i got so tired of the long process of jailbreak, i just went ahead and paid for the software appl upgrade.

I dont think i will be jailbreaking my Touch anytime soon. it takes time to jailbreak your device. and if you do something wrong, you have to start all over again.. and if new FW comes out, you have to jailbreak all over again. and that takes time. not to mention, it takes too much space. i got so tired of the long process of jailbreak, i just went ahead and paid for the software appl upgrade.
If by time, you mean 5 minutes. Then yes.