malibusurfer93
07-28-2008, 09:41 PM
ok so theres all this nag about ooooh the end of the world is on december 21, 2012. well after some hardcore googling i have found some opinions. ill post them here and you give your response to the first set of 7 reasons whether you agree or not.


7 Reasons:
Scientific experts from around the world are genuinely predicting that five years from now, all life on Earth could well finish. Some are saying it'll be humans that set it off. Others believe that a natural phenomenon will be the cause. And the religious folks are saying it'll be God himself who presses the stop button...


1. Mayan Calendar

The first mob to predict 2012 as the end of the world were the Mayans, a bloodthirsty race that were good at two things:

Building highly accurate astrological equipment out of stone and
Sacrificing Virgins.

Thousands of years ago they managed to calculate the length of the lunar moon as 329.53020 days, only 34 seconds out. The Mayan calendar predicts that the Earth will end on December 21, 2012. Given that they were pretty close to the mark with the lunar cycle, it's likely they've got the end of the world right as well.

2. Sun Storms

Solar experts from around the world monitoring the sun have made a startling discovery: our sun is in a bit of strife. The energy output of the sun is, like most things in nature, cyclic, and it's supposed to be in the middle of a period of relative stability. However, recent solar storms have been bombarding the Earth with so much radiation energy, it's been knocking out power grids and destroying satellites. This activity is predicted to get worse, and calculations suggest it'll reach its deadly peak sometime in 2012

3. The Atom Smasher

Scientists in Europe have been building the world's largest particle accelerator. Basically its a 27km tunnel designed to smash atoms together to find out what makes the Universe tick. However, the mega-gadget has caused serious concern, with some scientists suggesting that it's properly even a bad idea to turn it on in the first place. They're predicting all manner of deadly results, including mini black holes. So when this machine is fired up for its first serious experiment in 2012, the world could be crushed into a super-dense blob the size of a basketball.

4. The Bible says...

If having scientists warning us about the end of the world isn't bad enough,religious folks are getting in on the act aswell. Interpretations of the Christian Bible reveal that the date for Armageddon, the final battle between Good an Evil, has been set down for 2012. The I Ching, also known as the Chinese book of Changes, says the same thing, as do various sections of the Hindu teachings.

5. Super Volcano

Yellowstone National Park in the United States is famous for its thermal springs and Old Faithful geyser. The reason for this is simple - it's sitting on top of the world's biggest volcano, and geological experts are beginning to get nervous sweats. The Yellowstone volcano has a pattern of erupting every 650,000 years or so, and we're many years overdue for an explosion that will fill the atmosphere with ash, blocking the sun and plunging the Earth into a frozen winter that could last up to 15,000 years. The pressure under the Yellowstone is building steadily, and geologists have set 2012 as a likely date for the big bang.

6. The Physicists

This one's case of bog-simple maths mathematics. Physicists at Berekely Uni have been crunching the numbers. and they've determined that the Earth is well overdue for a major catastrophic event. Even worse, they're claiming their calculations prove, that we're all going to die, very soon - while also saying their prediction comes with a certainty of 99 percent- and 2012 just happens to be the best guess as to when it occurs.

7. Slip-Slop-Slap-BANG!

We all know the Earth is surrounded by a magnetic field that sheilds us from most of the sun's radiation. What you might not know is that the magnetic poles we call north and south have a nasty habit of swapping places every 750,000 years or so - and right now we're about 30,000 years overdue. Scientists have noted that the poles are drifting apart roughly 20-30kms each year, much faster than ever before, which points to a pole-shift being right around the corner. While the pole shift is underway, the magnetic field is disrupted and will eventually disappear, sometimes for up to 100 years. The result is enough UV outdoors to crisp your skin in seconds, killing everything it touches.


Opinion 2:

Some silly people out there think the world will end on December 21 2012. This is a group for everyone who doesn't believe all the (kurfuffle?) about this so called doomsday... or just don't care. Join this group and don't promote stupidity.

So basically heres the arguement in a nutshell...
1) The Mayan calendar OOOOO
- OK for starters the Mayans had two main calendars which had diffierent measurements of time and coincided every 52 years. The third calendar was a continuous count calendar that renewed itself every 5000 years. All the ending of the calendar means is that the current 5000 year period (there were 3 in mayan mythology) will be up and the ancient mayans weren't around long enough to create another 5000 year long count calendar.

2)Big Bad sunspots
-The sun is a stormy place and is sending more radiation now then previously. It runs on a 300 year cycle which will restart SOON no one knows when exactly though.. people just like the label it 2012 to fit their doomsday beliefs.

3)Earths magnetic pole reversal
-OK, according to nasa this happens on earth every 5 thousands to 50 million years.. so its VERY irregular.. our last pole reversal was 740,000 years ago.. ok I'll give you a minute to think about that.
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First of all some sites and 'believers of doomsday' think that when it happens (On Dec. 21 2012) the earth will be thrown into chaos and all living things will burn up. I'm no scientist.. but umm.. creatures were definately around 740,000 years ago and are still around.
Second.. according to those calculations it could happen today, tomorrow or millions of years from now!
*The only pole reversal due in 2012 is the sun.. and that happens every 11 years...
-There is proof that our magnetic field has begun to diminish over the past 300 years.. but pole reversal takes thousands of years.. and 2012 is 5 years away.. hmm...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/reversals.html - to see a model fo a pole reversal.

4)The Bible says so
- The bible says alot.

5)Yellowstone park's volcano will erupt and cover the world with ash
-ahahaha
-people are really digging for reasons to expect death
(The reality is, in extreme circumstances a giant volcano might make the air thick with ash everywhere for a bit... but in 2012?? I don't think so)

6)Fractel time and the I ching
-Ok I haven't spent too much time on this.. but basically since we progress faster and faster ever since the supposed start of evolution (evolution - domesticating things - printing press - auto's - computers) there will come a point in *gasp* 2012, when we will only be 'change' and the apocalypse will come. Who here knows a person or two who could evolve a bit? Honestly.
(I'm not 'dissing' the I ching by the way so please don't take offence!)

7) Nostradomus predicted it
-Nostradomus predicted a bunch of crap that didnt happen. Give a 10 year old 3 hours to make 300 predictions in poetic form then interpret each in 5 different ways and see how many come true...about as many as nostradomus I bet.

Heres a site with many failed religious and other predictions of many doomsdays in the past http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm

I think people are just paranoid... the truth is the world could end tonight.. or tomorrow.. people have nukes, the sun is unpredictable, virsuses are mutating as you read this and storms are happening all over the world. ITS NOTHING NEW.

RenegadeKrogan
07-28-2008, 09:44 PM
I think it will be humans who cause it. Thanks for the interesting read.

Hiratai
07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
I doubt anything will happen to be honest.

malibusurfer93
07-28-2008, 09:48 PM
i honestly dont think it will happen. i mean. if there was an end, it would be for one reason. and now a bunch of people are just making them up! i mean come on. this describes things perfectly.

7) Nostradomus predicted it
-Nostradomus predicted a bunch of crap that didnt happen. Give a 10 year old 3 hours to make 300 predictions in poetic form then interpret each in 5 different ways and see how many come true...about as many as nostradomus I bet.

the truth is people have been predicting the end of the world since the beginning of time. no one knows when it will be. the mayan calendar ended cause thats just the date they stopped making it. i mean you cant make an endless calendar. lets face it. it ends when it ends. why bother guessing?

RenegadeKrogan
07-28-2008, 09:59 PM
i honestly dont think it will happen. i mean. if there was an end, it would be for one reason. and now a bunch of people are just making them up! i mean come on. this describes things perfectly.

7) Nostradomus predicted it
-Nostradomus predicted a bunch of crap that didnt happen. Give a 10 year old 3 hours to make 300 predictions in poetic form then interpret each in 5 different ways and see how many come true...about as many as nostradomus I bet.

the truth is people have been predicting the end of the world since the beginning of time. no one knows when it will be. the mayan calendar ended cause thats just the date they stopped making it. i mean you cant make an endless calendar. lets face it. it ends when it ends. why bother guessing?

Good point. When the world does end then it will most likely be past our time.

The Baydestrian
07-28-2008, 10:09 PM
good finds
someone did their research

this is pretty interesting but I don't think the world's gonna end
people believe everything the Media feeds them

48days
07-28-2008, 11:00 PM
Thanks for the awesome post man, I think I'll be hitting the bars and gettin' laid as many times as possible on December 20th, just in case...

Vintagecondom
07-28-2008, 11:09 PM
They made reasons in 99, 6/6/06, and now 12, 21,12... Its just a theory and just like the other theories and times it probably won't happen.

It is possible though. The biggest threat I can think of is humanity itself...It won't happen...

exit1010
07-28-2008, 11:36 PM
HA! none of this 'at worlds end' will even come during my lifetime.

iTouch532
07-28-2008, 11:43 PM
Actually, it won't happen becuase it would be to easy.

I know maybe some of you at some time want your life to end.

But it won't be that easy.

Spyda
07-29-2008, 12:04 AM
thanks for putting this together. the whole thing is interesting, but i doubt the world will end in 2012. i wouldnt be surprised if a big disaster happens though

The Baydestrian
07-29-2008, 12:14 AM
what if something like War Of The Worlds happened
that'd be pretty scary

Harman_M
07-29-2008, 12:30 AM
Do you think is going to happen as the earths rotation starts taking a longer period of time?

They say it will reach 36 hours... We will have to evolve for that right

Vintagecondom
07-29-2008, 01:22 AM
Do you think is going to happen as the earths rotation starts taking a longer period of time?

They say it will reach 36 hours... We will have to evolve for that right


Yes and no... The Earth wouldn't just one day change to 36 Hours like a snap... It would take time and as time passes so will our evolution. I doubt this will happen in our lifetime though, but if it did we would evolve somewhat.

Our bodies are used to a 12 on 12, 8 on 16, 14 on 10, etc... As the Earth slowly changes so will humanity, Without noticing though. So maybe we would get bigger because of these longer hours of time, maybe our eyesight will change. Who knows...I do know it wouldn't happen in our lifetime though.

TO STAY ON TOPIC, I think that as 12/21/12 passes there will be a lot of havoc. Then once the theory is gone for a while a new doomsday date will appear and it will go all over again. NOW if we really did all die on 12/21/12 that would suck. We never would make it to Christmas or a new year :(

Freefall
07-29-2008, 02:54 AM
bring it :) :p

nah, jokes, i wanna live for a bit longer :D

MrBrightside
07-29-2008, 03:07 AM
Intresting read but I reckon its bull. Theres no use wondering about it anyway. I mean, what about all that stuff about the millenium. How all computers were supposed to fail etc. Bull =]

flyingguitar
07-29-2008, 04:22 AM
there is no way the earth is gunna blow up in 2012. the only way anything could happen is if those french ppl use that machine (anybody that watches cartoons knows what happens when you smash an attom) and if they would go that far to kill americans then they are the crazy ones not us.

BTW he earth can't end in 2012 cuz ill be 17 and i'm not gunna die a virgin:D

ricardofelix95
07-29-2008, 04:35 AM
OMG, let praid and nothing will happen:(
really interesting thread.

Kasperr
07-29-2008, 04:48 AM
BTW he earth can't end in 2012 cuz ill be 17 and i'm not gunna die a virgin:D

Yeah thats kinda the worst thing about it when youre that young, ill be around 17 to xD.

But seriously since i discovered this ''Thing'' like half a year ago on stumble, it caused me alot of sleepless nights. Im so scared of it that i cant even explain it, ive never ben more scared. I just try to forget it but its so hard. Ill just pray that it wont happen. Not that i have that much to loose in my life, its just i cant stand the thought of experienceing Doomsday.

mikedavinci22
07-29-2008, 05:17 AM
damnit, my birthday is december 22 - looks liek im screwed

TheDuke1122
07-29-2008, 05:31 AM
7 Reasons:
Scientific experts from around the world are genuinely predicting that five years from now, all life on Earth could well finish. Some are saying it'll be humans that set it off. Others believe that a natural phenomenon will be the cause. And the religious folks are saying it'll be God himself who presses the stop button...


There is no way that any of these wild speculations are made by "scientific experts." The fear mongers that propel ludicrous ideas like these only pretend to be scientific experts in a vain attempt to give merit to their cause. Anyway, you did a pretty good job tearing most of these down, but anyone else who still isn't convinced can find even more proof of this bs by doing a little scientific investigation of their own. Seriously people, read a book and stop believing everything that you hear.


But seriously since i discovered this ''Thing'' like half a year ago on stumble, it caused me alot of sleepless nights. Im so scared of it that i cant even explain it, ive never ben more scared. I just try to forget it but its so hard. Ill just pray that it wont happen. Not that i have that much to loose in my life, its just i cant stand the thought of experienceing Doomsday.

Jesus dude. I really hope that you're joking.

daveymontgomery
07-29-2008, 05:32 AM
Damn it i just read the start of the post and then went out and bought loads of gadgets on a 5 year plan, and i cant return them so the world better end in 2012 or im screwed

TmacHot
07-29-2008, 05:41 AM
nice search malibu but i dont that will be happen
i heard that in the earth would be dead in 06 6 2006:p cause its devils number anall this:eek::D
inthe movie no 23 with jim carey it said about this:p

jgl1115
07-29-2008, 05:42 AM
this was very interesting. but i really think that humans will cause the end of life as we know it.

MrCrawley
07-29-2008, 08:43 AM
3. The Atom Smasher

Scientists in Europe have been building the world's largest particle accelerator. Basically its a 27km tunnel designed to smash atoms together to find out what makes the Universe tick. However, the mega-gadget has caused serious concern, with some scientists suggesting that it's properly even a bad idea to turn it on in the first place. They're predicting all manner of deadly results, including mini black holes. So when this machine is fired up for its first serious experiment in 2012, the world could be crushed into a super-dense blob the size of a basketball.



actually it will start experimenting in december...

ibitapple
07-29-2008, 08:53 AM
this is a load of BS people have been predicting the end of the world for ever 9/9/99,12,21 etc etc

Jikoo
07-29-2008, 09:15 AM
8th suggestion:

Planet X (Niburu) is "approaching us" at over 3 billion light years a second, the planet is 400 times bigger than the sun and it's gravity is 20 million times greater than the sun, if it hits us at 3 billion light years a second, we could die. This has been proved complete bonkeys dollocks, so no need to worry.

YouTouch
07-29-2008, 01:43 PM
9th suggestion:

I think this one might be the most important for all of us.

2012 - The Year The Internet Ends.

Watch this video, it's interesting.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2XPiqhN_Ns

or check this link out.
http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

If you liked them they also have other interesting video's.

IpodtouchMM
07-29-2008, 02:00 PM
YOU GUYS IT WILL HAPPEN, and come one maybe on that day, just go underground somewhere for the night just incase. Whats the harm!

Hiratai
07-29-2008, 02:03 PM
YOU GUYS IT WILL HAPPEN, and come one maybe on that day, just go underground somewhere for the night just incase. Whats the harm!
Coming back up and having no food, no home, no body to talk to and no way of communication or getting help.

IpodtouchMM
07-29-2008, 02:05 PM
its better then die from a natural disaster or aliens etc!

Hiratai
07-29-2008, 02:09 PM
its better then die from a natural disaster or aliens etc!

No it's not. You'd die slowly and painfully if you starve to death. If it's a natural disaster it's more than likely instant.

IpodtouchMM
07-29-2008, 02:14 PM
i dont know will see what happens

niko7865
07-29-2008, 02:19 PM
At point number 3, the LHC at CERN (or "atom smasher") is going to be turned on this year, not in 2012. It should actually be running sometime next month.

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 02:40 PM
i really hope they dont use that. i mean what is the point? there isnt one. its just a bunch of kids playing science in their rooms. it serves no purpose but danger. and if it does happen i wouldnt want something slow to happen. i dont wanna suffer through the end of the world. i wanna go to sleep and be completely unaware

hakk79
07-29-2008, 02:47 PM
Nothing will happen. I am tired of all of this 2012 bullshit. If all of those people are so scared they should go hide on Pluto or the moon or something.


The bible does not tell any eact date of the end of the world. It can happen anytime.


BTW look how bgizzle closed the thread here! :eek:

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83805&page=10

YouTouch
07-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Coming back up and having no food, no home, no body to talk to and no way of communication or getting help.

Good point, but I would go with a couple people. And a couple of ladies to reinhabite the earth:cool:

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 02:55 PM
i know! THREAD CLOSED! he was pissed. well anyways back on topic. i honestly dont think its happening either

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 02:55 PM
2012 is not the end...

The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 because the mayans were busy fighting the Spanish!

They had no time to work on some stupid calendar

Remember 1999?

Everyone said 2000 was the end...

same thing during the Cuban Missile Crisis...

a lot people thought that meant Mutually Assured Destruction for the human race too

the only kind of natural disaster I can see happening would be the eruption of Yellowstone National Park...

that would be incredibly bad, probably the worst natural disaster this millenium

scary stuff, nightmarish almost

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 02:57 PM
i dont get it. whats so significant about yellowstone

hakk79
07-29-2008, 02:58 PM
2012 is not the end...

The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 because the mayans were busy fighting the Spanish!

They had no time to work on some stupid calendar

Remember 1999?

Everyone said 2000 was the end...

same thing during the Cuban Missile Crisis...

a lot people thought that meant Mutually Assured Destruction for the human race too

the only kind of natural disaster I can see happening would be the eruption of Yellowstone National Park...

that would be incredibly bad, probably the worst natural disaster this millenium

scary stuff, nightmarish almost
EXACTLY! SO EVERYONE WITH THIS 2012 NONSENSE STFU! XD

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:00 PM
i dont get it. whats so significant about yellowstone
:0

you don't know?

It's a supervolcano

if it were to go right now, it would be the worst natural disaster in 2000 years :'(

read up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera
here's a pic showing the immediate damage radius:
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/imgcache/3781.png
scares me sh*tless :'(

Hiratai
07-29-2008, 03:01 PM
:0

you don't know?

It's a supervolcano

if it were to go right now, it would be the worst natural disaster in 2000 years :'(

read up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera (http://outgoing.ipodtouchfans.com/?d=aHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS9ZZWxsb3d zdG9uZV9DYWxkZXJh)
here's a pic showing the immediate damage radius:
http://static-cache.ipodtouchfans.com/imgcache/3781.png
scares me sh*tless :'(

Lol...you'd die. Lawl.

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:03 PM
Lol...you'd die. Lawl.
not really, I live in NY

hopefully I'll be 6 feet under before I ever see that place...

scary stuff indeed, defiantly shows how little control man has over the planet

HotBrownies
07-29-2008, 03:09 PM
Dunno when, but enevitably, its Human's fault.

jpat53
07-29-2008, 03:13 PM
:0

you don't know?

It's a supervolcano

if it were to go right now, it would be the worst natural disaster in 2000 years :'(

read up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera
here's a pic showing the immediate damage radius:
http://static-cache.ipodtouchfans.com/imgcache/3781.png
scares me sh*tless :'(


I live in Colorado...........



shit

Winterboard
07-29-2008, 03:15 PM
really... Does noone get that this is sooooo true! Sigh. You all fail.

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:15 PM
I live in Colorado...........



shit
well, we'll all be dead (hopefully) by the time it goes

they say sometime within 1500 years

hakk79
07-29-2008, 03:16 PM
not really, I live in NY

hopefully I'll be 6 feet under before I ever see that place...

scary stuff indeed, defiantly shows how little control man has over the planet
Exactly! Oh man Angelsynth, we are on the same page today! :D

BTW where do you live in NY?

Hiratai
07-29-2008, 03:18 PM
Exactly! Oh man Angelsynth, we are on the same page today! :D

BTW where do you live in NY?

not really, I live in NY

hopefully I'll be 6 feet under before I ever see that place...

scary stuff indeed, defiantly shows how little control man has over the planet

No, he doesn't.

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:19 PM
Exactly! Oh man Angelsynth, we are on the same page today! :D

BTW where do you live in NY?
lol, we have wavelengths :D

I live in near Utica

-on topic-
we should all make up our own doomsday plans :)
------------------double post merged------------------
No, he doesn't.
umm, yeah I do :/

Hiratai
07-29-2008, 03:24 PM
lol, we have wavelengths :D

I live in near Utica

-on topic-
we should all make up our own doomsday plans :) ------------------double post merged------------------umm, yeah I do :/
That's why I quoted it and put in big letters you saying you lived in NY.

xALeXzx
07-29-2008, 03:30 PM
Fuck guys this is real, i'm gonna sell my life like the australian dude

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-student-sells-his-life-on-ebay-including-cranky-girlfriend-433576.html


/Sarcasm

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:31 PM
That's why I quoted it and put in big letters you saying you lived in NY.
I'm sorry, my mistake :-/

on topic:
IF the world ended in 2012 (which it won't)

then how would it end?

Death by meteor? (Apophis)
death by flooding? (global warming, Al Gore, lawl)
death by lazors?

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 03:38 PM
so about the volcano. would that just effect the us or the world

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:40 PM
so about the volcano. would that just effect the us or the world
the whole world, possibly make earth enter a second ice age, not sure...

but it would definitely knock the US of it's perch

scary stuff for sure, Google it...

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 03:42 PM
id rather not be informed of another life threatening danger. ive had enough form today between 2012 and the exploding purple people

Meikura
07-29-2008, 03:45 PM
I'm going to get a load of alcohol, movies and friends together on the 20th of December 2012 and we're going to party until it's the 22nd.

So I'm banking on the world ending, because if it doesn't then the chances are I'll have a hell of a hangover...

AngelSynth
07-29-2008, 03:46 PM
id rather not be informed of another life threatening danger. ive had enough form today between 2012 and the exploding purple people
perhaps I shall tell you about Apophis then?

malibusurfer93
07-29-2008, 03:54 PM
sure why not