Camera would have been much better than the speakers. Speakers seem somewhat unnecessary of the two since we already have sound.

Cameras would have been much more useful..speakers just make people come around you and go "ooooooooooohhhh nice ipod"

thats jus how i think

Iknow!!! i want the camera instead, speakers are cool but only they would add the camera to that black thingy! and ughhhh im so pissed off, my mom told me to wait cause there might be a new one but i didnt listen so now im stuck with the old one althoughhh im still happy wit it

why do u want a camera on ur ipod? dont you have a cell phone with a camera? i mean at least with speakers u can play games and stuff without headphones in the way. and also dont you have a digital camera too? how would a camera have been more usefull?

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.

Camera + iPod = Stupid.

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.
Well said. You middle schoolers and your sidekicks... eww.

Then you, my friend, are ******* all the way. :)
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Who actually really gives a damn about a cameraon the iPod? Speakers own.

If you want a camera get an iPhone

iPod + Camera = Multimedia Camera = Fun.

Then you, my friend, are ******* all the way. :)
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Who actually really gives a damn about a cameraon the iPod? Speakers own.
Yeah I actually modded up a pair of my own speakers using some headphones then I sold my iPod so I don't really need the speakers anymore now that they are built in :D

i would have loved a camera. that would have been awesome. not necessary, but awesome.

But we need better speakers with external holes (Like the iPhone) then it will be good

If you want a camera get an iPhone

QFT. An iPod Touch is not a phone or a camera. There isn't a single MP3 player on the market that has a camera but not a phone. Go buy an iPhone if you like complaining so much. They have more features and I'm sure you could find a no-contract iPhone 3G for about $450 on craigslist, or an iPhone 1G for $400. Not too much more then an iPod Touch, and you're getting a helluva lot more then just a camera.

Are you guys sure its a full fledged speaker like the iphones? Cuz in the KeyNote Steve Jobs commented that it was for casual listening, and that it was a small speaker. So I'm not really sure of what to think of it:S?

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.
lol thats me!...hahaha...

Are you guys sure its a full fledged speaker like the iphones? Cuz in the KeyNote Steve Jobs commented that it was for casual listening, and that it was a small speaker. So I'm not really sure of what to think of it:S?

It's not gonna fill your house with music, but it should work fine for listening to your music in a small area without headphones.

why do u want a camera on ur ipod? dont you have a cell phone with a camera? i mean at least with speakers u can play games and stuff without headphones in the way. and also dont you have a digital camera too? how would a camera have been more usefull?


Why would you want a ipod on your phone? Why download pics to your ipod wind you can have a camera build in to your ipod. less thing to have on you.
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Camera + iPod = Stupid.


Phone + iPod = Stupid:D

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.

It makes perfect sense for a PMP to have a camera. It's all about media. Who's to say that it shouldn't also create media as well as read it?

It makes perfect sense for a PMP to have a camera. It's all about media. Who's to say that it shouldn't also create media as well as read it?

You do create media on it. Beat Maker. A Camera is not necessary for that.

You do create media on it. Beat Maker. A Camera is not necessary for that.
Additional media creation in the way of photo/video. If it can create audio then it's not a far cry to say that it would fit with a camera.

I would never trade the speakers for a camera, I'm just saying that a camera isn't exactly a far fetched idea for a PMP with as much power as iPod Touch.

Additional media creation in the way of photo/video. If it can create audio then it's not a far cry to say that it would fit with a camera.

I would never trade the speakers for a camera, I'm just saying that a camera isn't exactly a far fetched idea for a PMP with as much power as iPod Touch.

If Apple wanted to, they could easily add a camera to the iPod Touch, no problem. It's not like it's hard. But the thing is, I'm sure Apple figured the demand wasn't high enough for a camera to be placed on an iPod, and it would have definitely increased production costs and make design changes necessary (like the reflective backing). So I think that if the demand is high enough, Apple will eventually add a camera. But right now, it just isn't so buy an iPhone if you really want a camera. And besides, I haven't heard of a PMP with a camera (that isn't a phone). And usually, Apple isn't the first to the market with their ideas; they just take them and do them better. So until you see a PMP with a camera for sale, I doubt you'll see an iPod with a camera.
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Are you guys sure its a full fledged speaker like the iphones? Cuz in the KeyNote Steve Jobs commented that it was for casual listening, and that it was a small speaker. So I'm not really sure of what to think of it:S?

Well I know that the speaker, unlike the iPhone's speaker, has no external holes for it, so I'm sure it's slightly lower quality then the iPhone, but Engadget mentioned that the speaker doesn't sound half-bad, so it should be fine.

If Apple wanted to, they could easily add a camera to the iPod Touch, no problem. It's not like it's hard. But the thing is, I'm sure Apple figured the demand wasn't high enough for a camera to be placed on an iPod, and it would have definitely increased production costs and make design changes necessary (like the reflective backing). So I think that if the demand is high enough, Apple will eventually add a camera. But right now, it just isn't so buy an iPhone if you really want a camera. And besides, I haven't heard of a PMP with a camera (that isn't a phone). And usually, Apple isn't the first to the market with their ideas; they just take them and do them better. So until you see a PMP with a camera for sale, I doubt you'll see an iPod with a camera.

I hadn't seen a PMP with an accelerometer and multitouch either, so the fact that there's no precedent set for it is superfluous.

I understand the decision on Apple's part. It's not that big of a thing really, all I'm saying is that it would be nice, and not only that, it's not even that out-there of an idea, considering the iPhone from which the iPod Touch is based has one.

Production costs I'll give to you. It would probably drive the price up a good ~$50, and that's not very nice, considering the $100 price drop from the previous gen.

Maybe gen 3 will have a camera. Wait 'till next September, I guess.

Who wants the cheapy 2.0 mp camera on the iPod touch anyways. I have a camera on my phone. I hardly even use it. Whats up with everyone asking for a camera.

iPod + Camera = Multimedia Camera = Fun.
and then there was this... but yea it would be cool on the touch...

http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Digital-Camera/26134/COOLPIX-S60.html

Who wants the cheapy 2.0 mp camera on the iPod touch anyways. I have a camera on my phone. I hardly even use it. Whats up with everyone asking for a camera.

Meh, I'll hardly use the Speaker but hey, it's cool to have.

Same with me. I can't remember the last time I've used my phone's camera. Then again, my phone isn't my iPod Touch, which I use more than any mobile device I've ever owned. I'm certain that if it had a camera, I'd use it rather often.

Meh, I'll hardly use the Speaker but hey, it's cool to have.

Same with me. I can't remember the last time I've used my phone's camera. Then again, my phone isn't my iPod Touch, which I use more than any mobile device I've ever owned. I'm certain that if it had a camera, I'd use it rather often.

and thats why you dont use the camera on the phone, cause it sucks. now if it was a high MP then you could use it...

adding a cam would be nice so i dont have to have a camera and a pod in the pocket...

If you want a camera get an iPhone
And if you want nike support get a ipod touch... Seriously the "get a iphone" trolling is over since apple clearly said that ONLY the ipod touch gen 2 will support it, even if you get the dongle it wont work on your iphone, So now both devices have propotary features that seperate them.

Besides if you dont like people talking about features they want on the ipod touch then shouldent you go to a iphone only forum. I wonder where you could find one of those... Oh yea, the sister site to ipodtouchfans, www.iphonefanatics.com. There is even a link at the top of the forum for your convienance.

Anyways it would had made sence if it did get a camera since pictures are considered media, and the touch is supposed to be "innovative", "revolutionary", and "the latest technology" . If I wanted just music I would had gotten a classic, I got the touch for innovation.

Btw has anyone mentioned the fact that the gen 2 evedently has mic support according to the specs on the new "apple in ear headphone/mic" page. I know you may be saying "the mic is for the iphone" but whats funny is the fact that the iphone isnt in the compatability area for the headphones, only the new shuffle and touch. This is prolly just a goof on apples part, but we can dream at least :P, considering your willing to drop down 79$ for it...

and thats why you dont use the camera on the phone, cause it sucks. now if it was a high MP then you could use it...

adding a cam would be nice so i dont have to have a camera and a pod in the pocket...

I just don't use my phone's camera because I never use my phone for anything other than making/receiving calls and text messages. I'm not a professional photographer; I don't give a damn about the quality of the camera, insofar as it has to at least be bearable (which, I think 2mp is certainly bearable).

I just don't use my phone's camera because I never use my phone for anything other than making/receiving calls and text messages. I'm not a professional photographer; I don't give a damn about the quality of the camera, insofar as it has to at least be bearable (which, I think 2mp is certainly bearable).

2mp is okay... my phone has a 1.3 thats why i usually lug around a kodak 6mp. but im not going to at&t to get a 3G just to have a cam, im happy at verizon. so its still not a loss, but couldve been fun.

2mp is okay... my phone has a 1.3 thats why i usually lug around a kodak 6mp. but im not going to at&t to get a 3G just to have a cam, im happy at verizon. so its still not a loss, but couldve been fun.
Exactly. I'm not going to dock points from iPod Touch because it doesn't have a camera, in the exact same way I'm not going to buy an iPhone because I don't want to change carriers or deal with the business behind unlocking.

Speakers: Necessity. iPod Touch should have had them from the start. Better quality system sounds, as well as music from your pocket.

Camera: Meh, it sure would be nice, but so would a million and a half dollars, and either way, it's not a terrible thing I don't have either.

I totally disagree with OP. A camera is not a good trade for the speaker.

I can't remember the last time I've used my phone's camera. Then again, my phone isn't my iPod Touch, which I use more than any mobile device I've ever owned. I'm certain that if it had a camera, I'd use it rather often.

:cool:Amen

eh i don't know if i'd really use it. it'd be just like the camera phone, cool at first, and then not much reason for daily use later.

Camera would have been much better than the speakers. Speakers seem somewhat unnecessary of the two since we already have sound.

Cameras would have been much more useful..speakers just make people come around you and go "ooooooooooohhhh nice ipod"

thats jus how i think
Well, since they're really pushing the games in the app store, it's kind of annoying or inconvenient (at least to me) to play games with headphones plugged in. The plug gets in the way and when you just want to play a quick game, you don't want to spend time finding the heaphones, unwrapping them, etc. So even though it would be nice to have a camera (trust me, I would LOVE a camera in the iPod), it's just not a high priority for most consumers as a speaker is.

i just wanna say if they do release one on the 3rd gen, you all can f*ck yourselves :)

Okay look. Do you see the word iPod in iPod touch? Okay. Now, come back to reality and realise that the iPod was meant to be a Music player. Now deal with it.

Guess I'm the only one content without either a camera or speakers. I have a fucking Digital SLR to take photos with. Good photos.

And if I want to play my music loud it's at home most of the time and I play it through my surround system. If I go to a mate's place or anything they always have a system set up so we can play our iPods. Only thing it would be good for is gaming. Because we all know that people who play music through the speakers in their phones in public are just obnoxious dicks.

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.

Meh. Once you hit a certain age, MySpace gets old and obnoxious. I prefer Facebook.

QFT. An iPod Touch is not a phone or a camera. There isn't a single MP3 player on the market that has a camera but not a phone. Go buy an iPhone if you like complaining so much. They have more features and I'm sure you could find a no-contract iPhone 3G for about $450 on craigslist, or an iPhone 1G for $400. Not too much more then an iPod Touch, and you're getting a helluva lot more then just a camera.

You may want to do more research on that topic. My friend has a Samsung MP3 player with a camera and bluetooth and volume controls. And if you really want to start that argument, iPod touch shouldn't have any internet/wi-fi based features like Safari, Maps, and Mail. Maybe the iTunes store cause it actually makes sense.

...Screw music players. The iPod touch has reached into the PDA market and we all know it. It is a full-fledged PDA. Notes, Mail, Maps, Safari, Music, Video, Games, ETC. <-That doesnt sound like a music player to me. That sounds like a gaming system or a PDA. Which it is.

Ergo, a camera would be nice.

iPod was meant to be a portable device for YOU.

After apple puts camera in ipod touch, people will demand for bluetooth.
After apple puts bluetooth in ipod touch, people will demand for mic.

ipod touch + camera + bluetooth + mic = iphone.:D

i would gladly pay the old price ($300 for 8 GB) if they would have included a GPS...

First, I want a camera. I like the idea of being able to take pictures all the time without lugging around a dedicated camera.

Next, I'm not too impressed by the speaker. What is the use of it? Aside from games, I can't see a purpose for it at all.

As for the people freaking out at every comment ("OMFG BUYZ A iPOHNE!!") what the hell is your problem? Some people enjoy taking pictures. AT&T doesn't have service everywhere, either. Some people just don't want a phone. Why bitch at them for wanting a camera?

They are trying to turn the iPod Touch into a Gaming Platform. Hence "The Funnest iPod Ever".

What makes it accentuate the games more: Speaker or Camera?

They are trying to turn the iPod Touch into a Gaming Platform. Hence "The Funnest iPod Ever".

What makes it accentuate the games more: Speaker or Camera?

From Apple's standpoint, the speaker makes far more sense. I'm not denying that. It's a brilliant marketing move. A tiny speaker that costs them less than a penny to add, and brings them into competition with Nintendo and Sony - taking in a whole new market.

From a business standpoint, it's ingenious. I'm just saying that I'd like a camera. :p

the speaker is balls anyway. It absolutely sucks for the most part. Tried it out at Apple today and just garbage....well it was just kind of borderlining garbage.....they;re not special


hooray to Steve Jobs for overhyping an iPod with basically a new design!

Phone + iPod = Stupid:D

It's really not. What phones don't have a music player that have come out in the past year?

i hate people who make the argument that the iPod is not meant to have a camera. Dammit, the iPod is not meant to have the internet too! It's an MP3 player....

Same stupid reasoning by the same people. YES it's an MP3...but they could've put a camera which seems like a much more attractive feature than internal speakers that suck anyways.

w/ the new external speakers, does that mean we can set a song to activate the alarm clock?

the speaker rocks, camera could make it too much like an iPhone and not do apple any good,

i would rather have a built in speaker, than a 2.0 mp camera

the speaker rocks, camera could make it too much like an iPhone and not do apple any good,

i would rather have a built in speaker, than a 2.0 mp camera

Does it "rock" or is it crap? :\

I would have chosen the camera over the speakers too just because it would have been nice to have it handy if I really needed to take a pic. With that said I'm not sure who would ever really use a cell phone camera anyway because the pictures they take are horrible.

Camera + iPod = Stupid.
agree
camera is stupid for ipod

GET OVER IT!!! there will NEVER be an iPod in the next decade with a camera!!!

NOTICE:
notice how i said decade... i have my ways :rolleyes:

fine...no iPod with a camera would be alright...as long as these speakers aren't outright sh*t.

whats with all the trolls saying that an ipod was meant to be a music player and their will never be a camera.
i dont mind having one, but if a phone can have a camera, why not an mp3 player?

if an MP3 player can have the internet, that leaves open any possibility.

Truth be told, everyone here would have wanted the Internet over Speakers, Camera, or whatever if it wasn't initially offered.

same here, but its not up to us at the end of the day, shame really isnt it :(

also i found some video of the speakers on youtube...like how they sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SUC5EpdD8

its alright.bear with me because its some little kid.

y would u need a camera on the ipod dont u have a camera on ur phone plus sometimes u dont want to be restricted by a cord speakers pwn i just wish that the side thingies were to change the trck not the volume

Okay look. Do you see the word iPod in iPod touch? Okay. Now, come back to reality and realise that the iPod was meant to be a Music player. Now deal with it.
Your argument has no point, because ipods are considered "mobile media devices" and media is made up of music, videos, and pictures. So a camera would be a great addition to the ipod, if apple didn't think so then they would not had made this for the 5th gen ipod.
Besides if its only meant to be a music player then why does every ipod model "excluding the shuffle since it lacks a screen" also support videos, photos, AND music?

Product Picture:
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_altview_photoadapter.jpg

Teslanaut has a point tho, obviously apple is trying to turn the touch into a portable gaming platform and this is why they put in the speaker. The buttons and nike support were just side perks to make current ipod touch owners want to upgrade.

On a final note, someone was saying that "people would want a mic, and that would make it to much like a iphone". Well I hate to tell you this but if you shovel out the 80$ for the high deffinition in ear headphones the mic on them DOES work on the generation 2 ipod touch, if it didnt then the gen 2 would not be listed as the "made for" product. Not to mention the iphone and iphone 3g are not listed at all on its page, only the new nano, gen 2 ipod touch, and ipod classic are listed as compatable.

Product page:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA850G/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3NA&mco=MTcyODUyMw

QFT. An iPod Touch is not a phone or a camera. There isn't a single MP3 player on the market that has a camera but not a phone. Go buy an iPhone if you like complaining so much. They have more features and I'm sure you could find a no-contract iPhone 3G for about $450 on craigslist, or an iPhone 1G for $400. Not too much more then an iPod Touch, and you're getting a helluva lot more then just a camera.



"There isn't a single MP3 player on the market that has a camera but not a phone."


change is bad? if anyone would put a camera on an audio player, it would be apple. apple has changed technology in ways people wouldnt even imagine. why wouldnt u want a camera? its more things on the ipod. why wouldnt u want that? i dont see why people are hating on more advances to an ipod. maybe its because they have an iphone and think they are superior to us ipod users who cant afford 100 dollars a month. i would love to have an iphone, i would love to have internet anywhere, it would be a dream come true to have internet anywhere in my pocket, unfortunatly i dont have a job and i cant afford it.


give me one good reason the touch shouldnt have a camera.



sorry about that rant, i just think its weird that people dont want advances on the products they are buying. thats my 2 cents, sorry for the grammar, i didnt even try

God, what has MySpace done to these children. Always wanting a Camera to update their MySpace pics.
Whenever something s established that is ridiculous it must be linked to being a child? xD