Does anyone knows how long it takes for the refurb to come out??

probably as long as it takes for people to break them

That's a good question. however i'm not planning on waiting for them, as i have already stretched my patience to the limit while waiting for this release since the 2nd gen Touch rumor surfaced:)

good question.

But I know MY IPOD has problems so i might just drop by the apple store and get a new iPod touch. Oh did I mention, it's 2G?

;)